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Re: assistance with chat group platforms

 

Yeah I know.

Enough media broadcasts put you guys as having major issues.

Its not all rosey here either.


Jobs are few and far between.

Initially I was hoping I could build up a port folio of accessibility testing work but its not that easy.

Most companies are 1 or 2 man units and well they come and go.

The major networks well you need to be lucky to find them.

The job I just did and my first jobs werre only known to me because there was basically a distress signal put out online because someone or other got a problem and couldn't do the work.

The first of these jobs did continue but stopped.

This one is just starting and I hope it continues.

Some companies have shifted to other frameworks and have merged into big powerhouses but jobs are not really big as such.

Most of what I do with accessadvisers for example is sit looking at conferences and other things rather than working.



On 29/11/2021 9:04 pm, aidan gamble wrote:

We don’t have such companies here in Zimbabwe this is a horrible country so sad

 

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 29 Nov 2021 09:55
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] assistants with chat group platforms

 

I am in new zealand.

I take jobs mostly from the us, australia, new zealand, and just about anywhere.

You may have issue getting jobs that far out.

I mean its first come first served.

Also you need a good connection.

Then again who knows.

Just by being in africa especially where you actually are you actually need to be a toughh customer.

More than that, you have delta and omicron at your door and you still want to go improve yourself.

You've made my night man, that totally kicks ass.

 

 

On 29/11/2021 8:28 pm, aidan gamble wrote:

Thanks Shaun

I will give all this a look

I live in Zimbabwe our government is pathetic and resources for all persons with disabilities such as jobs and affordable technology etc is hardly available

I work at an IT company that specialises in payroll systems

So I am trying to implement some new training programs there, however not the easiest task, but I will get there.

Witch country are you in if you don’t mind me asking.

Regards

Aidan

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 29 Nov 2021 09:21
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] assistants with chat group platforms

 

Your local blind organisation list will have jobs.

 

The following companies I know have jobs or could be looking.

https://connect.intopia.digital.

This came on my desk as an emergency load.

I did a job with them 2 weeks back.

It payed half of my audioquest dragonfly red which arrived today, fully registered and updated and sounds amazing.

2.

 

level access.

There are jobs but they may be american ones never got a responce back but yeah they are probably good.

Nobility.org.

I have not had a job from them for a while.

Access advisers.

Not sure if this is international or just local but yeah there are potential jobs though not recent.

Next, check out your local university.

True you may need help getting in the door and not sure how to do that.

I was bored one day and used a contact who's mobility teacher's husband just happened to be a professer in psychology and well I got in that way right up to test pilot level.

But it may not be that easy for you, ring about.

The final thing to try is your local disability ministry or whatever they are if there are jobs.

I am not sure how to do this as such as I was contacted by local people on my organisations lists.

Off the top of my head.

blindtech.

atug.

atig.

if you look at https://keybase.pub/shauneve

then find and download a file called listolists.txt there are lists of stuff in there.

Some may work others may not.

These were setup as a temperary database because the local org just didn't compile things.

And thhe lazy gits on the lists I asked about said I should do it myself because obviously they didn't want to bother.

So for the sake of the users I put it together.

Don't expect me to forking update it though.

I mean its there and it works but its there for a different thing than what it is.

 

Aden I did notice you are using a cloud email so it would help to know where you live.

Anyway there are places you should be able to go but I don't know all of them.

 

 

On 29/11/2021 7:10 pm, aidan gamble wrote:

Hello everyone, please kindly assist me with group lists to join different mailing lists, for technology jobs and social opportunities

Please also let me know if I can find computer courses and exams online as I am attempting to build a computer training course with exams for the workplace and to train companies

Regards

Aidan Gamble


Re: assistance with chat group platforms

aidan gamble
 

We don’t have such companies here in Zimbabwe this is a horrible country so sad

 

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 29 Nov 2021 09:55
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] assistants with chat group platforms

 

I am in new zealand.

I take jobs mostly from the us, australia, new zealand, and just about anywhere.

You may have issue getting jobs that far out.

I mean its first come first served.

Also you need a good connection.

Then again who knows.

Just by being in africa especially where you actually are you actually need to be a toughh customer.

More than that, you have delta and omicron at your door and you still want to go improve yourself.

You've made my night man, that totally kicks ass.

 

 

On 29/11/2021 8:28 pm, aidan gamble wrote:

Thanks Shaun

I will give all this a look

I live in Zimbabwe our government is pathetic and resources for all persons with disabilities such as jobs and affordable technology etc is hardly available

I work at an IT company that specialises in payroll systems

So I am trying to implement some new training programs there, however not the easiest task, but I will get there.

Witch country are you in if you don’t mind me asking.

Regards

Aidan

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 29 Nov 2021 09:21
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] assistants with chat group platforms

 

Your local blind organisation list will have jobs.

 

The following companies I know have jobs or could be looking.

https://connect.intopia.digital.

This came on my desk as an emergency load.

I did a job with them 2 weeks back.

It payed half of my audioquest dragonfly red which arrived today, fully registered and updated and sounds amazing.

2.

 

level access.

There are jobs but they may be american ones never got a responce back but yeah they are probably good.

Nobility.org.

I have not had a job from them for a while.

Access advisers.

Not sure if this is international or just local but yeah there are potential jobs though not recent.

Next, check out your local university.

True you may need help getting in the door and not sure how to do that.

I was bored one day and used a contact who's mobility teacher's husband just happened to be a professer in psychology and well I got in that way right up to test pilot level.

But it may not be that easy for you, ring about.

The final thing to try is your local disability ministry or whatever they are if there are jobs.

I am not sure how to do this as such as I was contacted by local people on my organisations lists.

Off the top of my head.

blindtech.

atug.

atig.

if you look at https://keybase.pub/shauneve

then find and download a file called listolists.txt there are lists of stuff in there.

Some may work others may not.

These were setup as a temperary database because the local org just didn't compile things.

And thhe lazy gits on the lists I asked about said I should do it myself because obviously they didn't want to bother.

So for the sake of the users I put it together.

Don't expect me to forking update it though.

I mean its there and it works but its there for a different thing than what it is.

 

Aden I did notice you are using a cloud email so it would help to know where you live.

Anyway there are places you should be able to go but I don't know all of them.

 

 

On 29/11/2021 7:10 pm, aidan gamble wrote:

Hello everyone, please kindly assist me with group lists to join different mailing lists, for technology jobs and social opportunities

Please also let me know if I can find computer courses and exams online as I am attempting to build a computer training course with exams for the workplace and to train companies

Regards

Aidan Gamble


Re: assistance with chat group platforms

 

I am in new zealand.

I take jobs mostly from the us, australia, new zealand, and just about anywhere.

You may have issue getting jobs that far out.

I mean its first come first served.

Also you need a good connection.

Then again who knows.

Just by being in africa especially where you actually are you actually need to be a toughh customer.

More than that, you have delta and omicron at your door and you still want to go improve yourself.

You've made my night man, that totally kicks ass.



On 29/11/2021 8:28 pm, aidan gamble wrote:

Thanks Shaun

I will give all this a look

I live in Zimbabwe our government is pathetic and resources for all persons with disabilities such as jobs and affordable technology etc is hardly available

I work at an IT company that specialises in payroll systems

So I am trying to implement some new training programs there, however not the easiest task, but I will get there.

Witch country are you in if you don’t mind me asking.

Regards

Aidan

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 29 Nov 2021 09:21
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] assistants with chat group platforms

 

Your local blind organisation list will have jobs.

 

The following companies I know have jobs or could be looking.

https://connect.intopia.digital.

This came on my desk as an emergency load.

I did a job with them 2 weeks back.

It payed half of my audioquest dragonfly red which arrived today, fully registered and updated and sounds amazing.

2.

 

level access.

There are jobs but they may be american ones never got a responce back but yeah they are probably good.

Nobility.org.

I have not had a job from them for a while.

Access advisers.

Not sure if this is international or just local but yeah there are potential jobs though not recent.

Next, check out your local university.

True you may need help getting in the door and not sure how to do that.

I was bored one day and used a contact who's mobility teacher's husband just happened to be a professer in psychology and well I got in that way right up to test pilot level.

But it may not be that easy for you, ring about.

The final thing to try is your local disability ministry or whatever they are if there are jobs.

I am not sure how to do this as such as I was contacted by local people on my organisations lists.

Off the top of my head.

blindtech.

atug.

atig.

if you look at https://keybase.pub/shauneve

then find and download a file called listolists.txt there are lists of stuff in there.

Some may work others may not.

These were setup as a temperary database because the local org just didn't compile things.

And thhe lazy gits on the lists I asked about said I should do it myself because obviously they didn't want to bother.

So for the sake of the users I put it together.

Don't expect me to forking update it though.

I mean its there and it works but its there for a different thing than what it is.

 

Aden I did notice you are using a cloud email so it would help to know where you live.

Anyway there are places you should be able to go but I don't know all of them.

 

 

On 29/11/2021 7:10 pm, aidan gamble wrote:

Hello everyone, please kindly assist me with group lists to join different mailing lists, for technology jobs and social opportunities

Please also let me know if I can find computer courses and exams online as I am attempting to build a computer training course with exams for the workplace and to train companies

Regards

Aidan Gamble


Re: assistance with chat group platforms

aidan gamble
 

Thanks Shaun

I will give all this a look

I live in Zimbabwe our government is pathetic and resources for all persons with disabilities such as jobs and affordable technology etc is hardly available

I work at an IT company that specialises in payroll systems

So I am trying to implement some new training programs there, however not the easiest task, but I will get there.

Witch country are you in if you don’t mind me asking.

Regards

Aidan

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 29 Nov 2021 09:21
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] assistants with chat group platforms

 

Your local blind organisation list will have jobs.

 

The following companies I know have jobs or could be looking.

https://connect.intopia.digital.

This came on my desk as an emergency load.

I did a job with them 2 weeks back.

It payed half of my audioquest dragonfly red which arrived today, fully registered and updated and sounds amazing.

2.

 

level access.

There are jobs but they may be american ones never got a responce back but yeah they are probably good.

Nobility.org.

I have not had a job from them for a while.

Access advisers.

Not sure if this is international or just local but yeah there are potential jobs though not recent.

Next, check out your local university.

True you may need help getting in the door and not sure how to do that.

I was bored one day and used a contact who's mobility teacher's husband just happened to be a professer in psychology and well I got in that way right up to test pilot level.

But it may not be that easy for you, ring about.

The final thing to try is your local disability ministry or whatever they are if there are jobs.

I am not sure how to do this as such as I was contacted by local people on my organisations lists.

Off the top of my head.

blindtech.

atug.

atig.

if you look at https://keybase.pub/shauneve

then find and download a file called listolists.txt there are lists of stuff in there.

Some may work others may not.

These were setup as a temperary database because the local org just didn't compile things.

And thhe lazy gits on the lists I asked about said I should do it myself because obviously they didn't want to bother.

So for the sake of the users I put it together.

Don't expect me to forking update it though.

I mean its there and it works but its there for a different thing than what it is.

 

Aden I did notice you are using a cloud email so it would help to know where you live.

Anyway there are places you should be able to go but I don't know all of them.

 

 

On 29/11/2021 7:10 pm, aidan gamble wrote:

Hello everyone, please kindly assist me with group lists to join different mailing lists, for technology jobs and social opportunities

Please also let me know if I can find computer courses and exams online as I am attempting to build a computer training course with exams for the workplace and to train companies

Regards

Aidan Gamble


Re: assistance with chat group platforms

 

Your local blind organisation list will have jobs.


The following companies I know have jobs or could be looking.

https://connect.intopia.digital.

This came on my desk as an emergency load.

I did a job with them 2 weeks back.

It payed half of my audioquest dragonfly red which arrived today, fully registered and updated and sounds amazing.

2.


level access.

There are jobs but they may be american ones never got a responce back but yeah they are probably good.

Nobility.org.

I have not had a job from them for a while.

Access advisers.

Not sure if this is international or just local but yeah there are potential jobs though not recent.

Next, check out your local university.

True you may need help getting in the door and not sure how to do that.

I was bored one day and used a contact who's mobility teacher's husband just happened to be a professer in psychology and well I got in that way right up to test pilot level.

But it may not be that easy for you, ring about.

The final thing to try is your local disability ministry or whatever they are if there are jobs.

I am not sure how to do this as such as I was contacted by local people on my organisations lists.

Off the top of my head.

blindtech.

atug.

atig.

if you look at https://keybase.pub/shauneve

then find and download a file called listolists.txt there are lists of stuff in there.

Some may work others may not.

These were setup as a temperary database because the local org just didn't compile things.

And thhe lazy gits on the lists I asked about said I should do it myself because obviously they didn't want to bother.

So for the sake of the users I put it together.

Don't expect me to forking update it though.

I mean its there and it works but its there for a different thing than what it is.


Aden I did notice you are using a cloud email so it would help to know where you live.

Anyway there are places you should be able to go but I don't know all of them.



On 29/11/2021 7:10 pm, aidan gamble wrote:

Hello everyone, please kindly assist me with group lists to join different mailing lists, for technology jobs and social opportunities

Please also let me know if I can find computer courses and exams online as I am attempting to build a computer training course with exams for the workplace and to train companies

Regards

Aidan Gamble


assistance with chat group platforms

aidan gamble
 

Hello everyone, please kindly assist me with group lists to join different mailing lists, for technology jobs and social opportunities

Please also let me know if I can find computer courses and exams online as I am attempting to build a computer training course with exams for the workplace and to train companies

Regards

Aidan Gamble


Re: changing page and font size on google doc

Sascha Cowley
 

You cannot use NVDA+F to announce font attributes in Google Docs, due to the way it has been developed as a web app. The keyboard shortcut to use in docs is Alt+Ctrl+A then Alt+Ctrl+F. Have a look at ehe Accessibility menu (Alt+Shift+A) for more accessibility features of Docs, such as jumping between headings, announcing comments etc (unfortunately some of these shortcuts conflict with the NVDA shortcut key that you may use, Alt+Ctrl+N).
To move among pages, just use page up and down without Ctrl. As you have discovered Ctrl+Pgup and Ctrl+Pgdown are standard hotkeys for switching among tabs in tabbed applications.


changing page and font size on google doc

farhan israk
 

I am using windows 10 21h2, nvda 2021.2 and google chrome Version 96.0.4664.45 (Official Build) (64-bit). I use google doc. I cannot change the font size. I press insert + f to check font size and other formatting staff. If I press that keystroke after changing the font size, nvda announces the previous font size. It does not announce a new font size after changing it. I also cannot change page. If I press ctrl + page down, chrome switches to another opened tab.


Re: SoftMaker FreeOffice 2021 - I am looking for some willing accessibility testers

David Goldfield
 

It's been some time since installing FreeOffice and so I can't comment on this latest release. However, I can tell you that the LibreOffice installer is completely accessible. Writer offers adequate support with NVDA for word processing as does Calc for composing and reading spreadsheets. I believe some people have reported issues where using NVDA's Read All feature doesn't always read the entire document and in the past the spell checker wasn't providing the level of feedback that would be considered ideal. However, while I have a very current version of LibreOffice installed I haven't checked on the status of these issues in quite a while.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.
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-----Original Message-----
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2021 8:16 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] SoftMaker FreeOffice 2021 - I am looking for some willing accessibility testers

This app isn't worth bothering with.
Started TextMaker, and the dialog for choosing the user interface is inaccessible. It reads what's in it, but doesn't read when I tab through it.
So I mouse clicked what I needed to, and that seemed to work.
Again an inaccessible info setting dialog. Got out of that, and was in the text field. NVDA reads it, but using the display model.
This means that there's no specific support in NVDA for the control, and it just screen scrapes. So say all doesn't work, and reading is weird.
For example, the W in Welcome to TextMaker turns into a space when moving by character.
Also all of the dialogs are like that, not just the initial ones.

PlanMaker didn't read at all.

LibreOffice might be better than this. I think NVDA has support for it, but haven't tried it in a long time.

On 11/25/2021 4:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
For a number of years now, I have been recommending SoftMaker
FreeOffice (or the paid version) to those who want to walk away from
Microsoft Office or who just don't want to go Microsoft 365.  Up until
recently, the latest version had been FreeOffice 2018, and prior
testing among the cohort showed pretty quickly that there were
significant accessibility problems.

SoftMaker FreeOffice 2021
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
softmaker.net%2Fdown%2Ffreeoffice2021.msi&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C62f8cb
05133c41cff1c508d9b07a40d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%
7C637734861387150435%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQI
joiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=dL6gWhtdwHl
vN2FnhoUmAWlHykFDFpxZN%2FKU32IORJo%3D&amp;reserved=0> has just recently been released, and there seem to be some accessibility improvements, but I still suspec there will be some deal breakers, and I don't find those nearly as rapidly as those who are trying to use TextMaker (equivalent of Word), PlanMaker (equivalent of Excel), or Presentations (equivalent of PowerPoint) do.

You still have to choose the classic menu controls layout during
installation for there to be any accessibility, as their ribbons just
don't work and, if anything, may be even worse.  If the choice between
ribbons and classic menu controls remains inaccessible during the
install, that would be unfortunate, too, but I installed this weeks
ago without thinking about having NVDA on at the time, and right now I
don't want to uninstall/reinstall.

If there are any willing "quick and dirty" accessibility testers for
the
2021 version of SoftMaker FreeOffie, let me know what you're
encountering, good or bad.  I suspect that the final verdict will be
"still inaccessible," but I can't come to that conclusion from my own
quick and dirty testing.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

The stoical scheme of supplying our wants by lopping off our desires
is like cutting off our feet when we want shoes.

         ~ Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)


Re: SoftMaker FreeOffice 2021 - I am looking for some willing accessibility testers

Tyler Spivey
 

This app isn't worth bothering with.
Started TextMaker, and the dialog for choosing the user interface is inaccessible. It reads what's in it, but doesn't read when I tab through it.
So I mouse clicked what I needed to, and that seemed to work.
Again an inaccessible info setting dialog. Got out of that, and was in the text field. NVDA reads it, but using the display model.
This means that there's no specific support in NVDA for the control, and it just screen scrapes. So say all doesn't work, and reading is weird. For example, the W in Welcome to TextMaker turns into a space when moving by character.
Also all of the dialogs are like that, not just the initial ones.

PlanMaker didn't read at all.

LibreOffice might be better than this. I think NVDA has support for it, but haven't tried it in a long time.

On 11/25/2021 4:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
For a number of years now, I have been recommending SoftMaker FreeOffice (or the paid version) to those who want to walk away from Microsoft Office or who just don't want to go Microsoft 365.  Up until recently, the latest version had been FreeOffice 2018, and prior testing among the cohort showed pretty quickly that there were significant accessibility problems.
SoftMaker FreeOffice 2021 <https://www.softmaker.net/down/freeoffice2021.msi> has just recently been released, and there seem to be some accessibility improvements, but I still suspec there will be some deal breakers, and I don't find those nearly as rapidly as those who are trying to use TextMaker (equivalent of Word), PlanMaker (equivalent of Excel), or Presentations (equivalent of PowerPoint) do.
You still have to choose the classic menu controls layout during installation for there to be any accessibility, as their ribbons just don't work and, if anything, may be even worse.  If the choice between ribbons and classic menu controls remains inaccessible during the install, that would be unfortunate, too, but I installed this weeks ago without thinking about having NVDA on at the time, and right now I don't want to uninstall/reinstall.
If there are any willing "quick and dirty" accessibility testers for the 2021 version of SoftMaker FreeOffie, let me know what you're encountering, good or bad.  I suspect that the final verdict will be "still inaccessible," but I can't come to that conclusion from my own quick and dirty testing.
--
Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
The stoical scheme of supplying our wants by lopping off our desires is like cutting off our feet when we want shoes.
         ~ Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)


SoftMaker FreeOffice 2021 - I am looking for some willing accessibility testers

 

For a number of years now, I have been recommending SoftMaker FreeOffice (or the paid version) to those who want to walk away from Microsoft Office or who just don't want to go Microsoft 365.  Up until recently, the latest version had been FreeOffice 2018, and prior testing among the cohort showed pretty quickly that there were significant accessibility problems.

SoftMaker FreeOffice 2021 has just recently been released, and there seem to be some accessibility improvements, but I still suspec there will be some deal breakers, and I don't find those nearly as rapidly as those who are trying to use TextMaker (equivalent of Word), PlanMaker (equivalent of Excel), or Presentations (equivalent of PowerPoint) do.

You still have to choose the classic menu controls layout during installation for there to be any accessibility, as their ribbons just don't work and, if anything, may be even worse.  If the choice between ribbons and classic menu controls remains inaccessible during the install, that would be unfortunate, too, but I installed this weeks ago without thinking about having NVDA on at the time, and right now I don't want to uninstall/reinstall.

If there are any willing "quick and dirty" accessibility testers for the 2021 version of SoftMaker FreeOffie, let me know what you're encountering, good or bad.  I suspect that the final verdict will be "still inaccessible," but I can't come to that conclusion from my own quick and dirty testing.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

The stoical scheme of supplying our wants by lopping off our desires is like cutting off our feet when we want shoes.

         ~ Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)


Thanksgiving greetings

udit pandey
 

hi group,
I want to say to you all
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone if you celebrate it in your country


Re: the audio quest dragonfly series

 

Hmmm thats what I figured.

Reading reviews about all the devices, the cobolt was in the high price range.

From soundlab with tax and free shipping the red is round 298.

Being it was black friday and after looking at several reviews since the discussion of last week, I ended up getting that.

The only issue with the red aparently is it can chip and thats only the case cover so its not a big issue.

I will be plugging headsets into it, I have also a usb microphone but I will be trying to see what my 3d portable andrea thinks of it.

I must say that the manual for audioquest stuff was easy to understand and highly accessible.

The updater also seems to be accessible out of the box without much work.

For the price tag and what I was going to use it for, the red ended up being my choice.

More over the cash from my big test job has covered half of it and well yeah it just works.

I want high quality but the highest quality device I will be connecting to it is my senheiser hd 410s, which cost me a couple hundred and my andrea 3d headset which didn't.

I didn't bother with the noise filter since I already have a gaming grade usb hub here.

However I decided even though it cost me 50 more dollars I would go and grab the usb tail cord so I could plug the thing into my hub or computer without any real issue with it blocking other ports.

It sounds like on cobolt according to tests that the stock tail that plugs in doesn't fit right but again its no real loss.

I have some raser chromo speakers and an amp with good speakers on it.

Well second class speakers.

I used to have some spender speakers but my room and the big speakers, well they really rocked the house.

However I don't need huge speakers for my medium size room.

Smaller speakers from an older stereo which I guess would sound utter crap in a large room sounded fine enough for me in this one.

On 25/11/2021 9:30 pm, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi Shaun,

owning both the Red and the Cobalt, if I were only buying one of them
I would pick the Red. It's not that the Cobalt sounds less human, but
it isn't quite as warm a sound as the Red.

There is no volume control. Both Red and Cobalt amplify the sound
compared to what you get when plugging the headphones directly into
the computer's headphone socket, but the volume is controled by the
level on the computer.

I think you mean clipping rather than chipping. and no, I have not
noticed any clipping with music played through the Red. Neither Red or
Cobalt provide that much amplification to be honest. My Chord Mojo on
the other hand produces an incredible amount of amplification but it
does have volume control so I can adjust the volume to suit whatever
track or album I am listening to.

Now I have the Mojo, I am thinking of selling either the Red or the
Cobalt, because I don't need both. With rare exceptions, I never use
my phone for listening to music so the tail that came with my Cobalt
is untested. If I do sell one of the DACs it'll most likely be the
Cobalt, because it's newer, has the tail, costs more and I just prefer
the Red! But I only use the Audioquest devices because I hate the
Realtek system configuration window poppping up any time I connect
headphones to my devices. That doesn't happen when connecting
headphones through the Audioquest DACs.

although you can compare facts and figures and decide that one device
is better than another because it has better numbers on paper, you'll
only really know how that translates into the sound of a device when
you listen to it. In HiFi terms, you hear this with tube
amplification. Tube amplifiers are very low powered compared to solid
state amplifiers. A tube amp might only be 10W compared to a 25W
entry-level solid state HiFi amp, or the 200W Sony thing that a
flatmate of mine had when I was a student a couple of years ago. But
tube amps can be incredibly musical to listen to, and the important
part of the equation is what equipment you partner it with. Listening
to either the Red or the Cobalt through a pair of headphones that cost
£10, you're unlikely to notice any difference. Upgrade to something
like the not widely-known headphone maker, 1 More (which is written as
the number 1 and no space between it and the word More) who make
triple driver and quad driver earbuds, and you may notice the
difference.

Giles

On 11/25/21, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Hi.

After reviewing all products, its clear I don't want the black.

So its either the red or the cobolt.

The cobolt has a tail but it doesn't sound like it fits and is less
human sounding in some ways than the red, its smaller, and has a faster
cpu but thats about it.

To the user I forgot who it is with the red have you ever notice it
chipping as this was the only complaint.

According to what hifi which is where I pulled all my reviews whilst
eating my curry dinner it doesn't sound like its a big deal as such.

Its more than likely I will be buying the red.

I am not going to use the unit with a smart phone anyway its mainly the pc.

The cobolt sounds nice but for the price even though its smaller and has
30% more power and draws less power I think midrange is where I like to go.

So as I said before the only issue is how does the digital volume
control work.









Re: the audio quest dragonfly series

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi Shaun,

owning both the Red and the Cobalt, if I were only buying one of them
I would pick the Red. It's not that the Cobalt sounds less human, but
it isn't quite as warm a sound as the Red.

There is no volume control. Both Red and Cobalt amplify the sound
compared to what you get when plugging the headphones directly into
the computer's headphone socket, but the volume is controled by the
level on the computer.

I think you mean clipping rather than chipping. and no, I have not
noticed any clipping with music played through the Red. Neither Red or
Cobalt provide that much amplification to be honest. My Chord Mojo on
the other hand produces an incredible amount of amplification but it
does have volume control so I can adjust the volume to suit whatever
track or album I am listening to.

Now I have the Mojo, I am thinking of selling either the Red or the
Cobalt, because I don't need both. With rare exceptions, I never use
my phone for listening to music so the tail that came with my Cobalt
is untested. If I do sell one of the DACs it'll most likely be the
Cobalt, because it's newer, has the tail, costs more and I just prefer
the Red! But I only use the Audioquest devices because I hate the
Realtek system configuration window poppping up any time I connect
headphones to my devices. That doesn't happen when connecting
headphones through the Audioquest DACs.

although you can compare facts and figures and decide that one device
is better than another because it has better numbers on paper, you'll
only really know how that translates into the sound of a device when
you listen to it. In HiFi terms, you hear this with tube
amplification. Tube amplifiers are very low powered compared to solid
state amplifiers. A tube amp might only be 10W compared to a 25W
entry-level solid state HiFi amp, or the 200W Sony thing that a
flatmate of mine had when I was a student a couple of years ago. But
tube amps can be incredibly musical to listen to, and the important
part of the equation is what equipment you partner it with. Listening
to either the Red or the Cobalt through a pair of headphones that cost
£10, you're unlikely to notice any difference. Upgrade to something
like the not widely-known headphone maker, 1 More (which is written as
the number 1 and no space between it and the word More) who make
triple driver and quad driver earbuds, and you may notice the
difference.

Giles

On 11/25/21, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Hi.

After reviewing all products, its clear I don't want the black.

So its either the red or the cobolt.

The cobolt has a tail but it doesn't sound like it fits and is less
human sounding in some ways than the red, its smaller, and has a faster
cpu but thats about it.

To the user I forgot who it is with the red have you ever notice it
chipping as this was the only complaint.

According to what hifi which is where I pulled all my reviews whilst
eating my curry dinner it doesn't sound like its a big deal as such.

Its more than likely I will be buying the red.

I am not going to use the unit with a smart phone anyway its mainly the pc.

The cobolt sounds nice but for the price even though its smaller and has
30% more power and draws less power I think midrange is where I like to go.

So as I said before the only issue is how does the digital volume
control work.








the audio quest dragonfly series

 

Hi.

After reviewing all products, its clear I don't want the black.

So its either the red or the cobolt.

The cobolt has a tail but it doesn't sound like it fits and is less human sounding in some ways than the red, its smaller, and has a faster cpu but thats about it.

To the user I forgot who it is with the red have you ever notice it chipping as this was the only complaint.

According to what hifi which is where I pulled all my reviews whilst eating my curry dinner it doesn't sound like its a big deal as such.

Its more than likely I will be buying the red.

I am not going to use the unit with a smart phone anyway its mainly the pc.

The cobolt sounds nice but for the price even though its smaller and has 30% more power and draws less power I think midrange is where I like to go.

So as I said before the only issue is how does the digital volume control work.


the audio quest dragonfly series

 

Hi.

Well I have been going through getting into the dragonfly series and I know this was discussed on the list.

There are 3 versions.

1  the cobolt which from soundlab is round 400 from 500 dollarrs nz.


the red at 249 from 300 nz.

And the black a 150 from 165 nz.

Here's the thing.

After listening to reviews, obviously the best unit with the best processer is the cobolt, however there doesn't seem to be that much difference from that and the red  for what I am doing except its got a phone dongle.

Sound on cobolt is described as warm and all mixed able to handle just about anything.

At the price I may go for it.

The red is middle of the road and I may go for that maybe either or.

The black is the cheapest but having used  andrea cards before I really don't want ultrabright pluss the black can't do high end headphones and the rest can.

The cobolt seems to have a slightly better signal noise module to.

How does the volume control on the red  work.

Its described as digital, is it touch or something and is it easy to handle if it is.

The black has an analog wheel on the device.

However being the black has the lowest outputs etc my plan is to stay middle of the road or the next one up.

I've just got payed from a job I did so have enough for the black.

The red is a hundred more than that, and the cobolt is 250 dollars more than that.

All current units can have updated firmware and feature sets and charts look ok.

For what  I need the red seems to be the one I would go for, however depending on how much extra cash I get over christmas and into boxing day, I could easilly be convinced to get the cobolt especially because of the extra tale dongle that comes with it for usb c connection.

The tail sells for round 50 bucks so already I am getting a 50 dollar extender module for jack which is a bit of a sale since I like bundles.

With all the talk about laptops with no headphone jacks and with me retiring my old outdated and yesteryear sb play, I have been thinking of getting cash for a good sound card.

The cobolt may be what I get in the end because its got everything and then some.

I won't get black because its at the low end, the red still maybe on the cards but even so.

Finally we are approaching end of lockdown here in new zealand so its possible by next year some time trips and things may happen and who knows about stuff.

Right now I have cash, to run with.


Obviously thats not goint to say I will be burning money but I have enough to take out a few tangents still.


Re: Seeking Feedback Regarding Your Experiences With Asus and VivoBook Laptops

Don H
 

The latest Zin books have no headphone jack

On 11/24/2021 1:35 PM, David Goldfield wrote:
Nimer is correct about the headphone jack as this laptop does have one.

David Goldfield,

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*From:* chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nimer Jaber
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2021 2:32 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] Seeking Feedback Regarding Your Experiences With
Asus and VivoBook Laptops

Looks like a decent machine to me. I've had a few Asus laptops, and had
an issue with one where the sound card went out, but that is no reason
to avoid an entire brand. Also, the lack of a headphone jack is not on
every Asus laptop.

Thanks.

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 9:04 PM David Goldfield
<david.goldfield@... <mailto:david.goldfield@...>> wrote:

The Microsoft store is offering a Black Friday deal selling this
Asus VivoBook K513 laptop
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fd%2Fasus-vivobook-15-oled-k513ea-uh76-156-laptop%2F8x3ds9vrtm91%3Factivetab%3Dpivot%3Aoverviewtab&data=04%7C01%7C%7C4b132ce982f2434b81e008d9af813be1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637733791866082590%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Kvc9s%2F%2BFn6FpI7mCIvMsp6UUGmCxMzwnTHDSFHRoPvs%3D&reserved=0>
for $799.00 featuring a 1 terabyte SSD, 16 GB of RAM and an 11^th
-generation I7 processor and I have to confess it’s calling to me.
I’m considering it as my current Dell Latitude laptop is fabulous
but can’t officially run Windows 11 and I’d like the option to
install that OS. This laptop seems to check all of the boxes I
really want. It doesn’t have an ethernet port which I’m really
spoiled by with my current laptop but an inexpensive hub would
surely take care of that. The reviews for this Asus are generally
favorable. Reviewers love the OLED screen which as a blind person
doesn’t matter to me. I’d prefer something a tad smaller but so far
I haven’t found any laptops with these specs for the price. I also
acknowledge that I could just continue to use Windows 10 on my
current laptop knowing full well that any modern laptop I could buy
by 2025 would be even better than what I could buy today and so this
purchase is hardly urgent. I’m just wondering if any of you have any
experience with Asus, good or otherwise, and if you feel that this
particular purchase at an $800.00 price is worth it or are there
reasons for avoiding it that I’m not considering.

Many thanks.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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Re: Acrobat scan and Adobe acrobat - Accessibility of PC Desktop Apps as well as Mobile Versions

 

Ibrahim,

The number of tutorials on using Adobe Acrobat and Adobe Acrobat Reader on the PC platform with accessibility software, screen readers in particular, is myriad.  There's no reason for me to reinvent the wheel here.  A web search on either one of those two programs along with the name of the screen reader you wish to use with it will turn up days worth of reading.

I'd expect the same thing for Adobe Scan, but to a lesser extent, at least when it comes to the PC platform.

Web searching on the app names along with iOS in the case of an iPhone or Andriod in the case of Android phones coupled with either "Talkback" or "Android Accessibility Suite" should turn up what's available regarding the mobile apps for the specified platform.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.

         ~ Harlan Ellison


Re: Seeking Feedback Regarding Your Experiences With Asus and VivoBook Laptops

David Goldfield
 

Nimer is correct about the headphone jack as this laptop does have one.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 2:32 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Seeking Feedback Regarding Your Experiences With Asus and VivoBook Laptops

 

Looks like a decent machine to me. I've had a few Asus laptops, and had an issue with one where the sound card went out, but that is no reason to avoid an entire brand. Also, the lack of a headphone jack is not on every Asus laptop.

 

Thanks.

 

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 9:04 PM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

The Microsoft store is offering a Black Friday deal selling this Asus VivoBook K513 laptop for $799.00 featuring a 1 terabyte SSD, 16 GB of RAM and an 11th-generation I7 processor and I have to confess it’s calling to me. I’m considering it as my current Dell Latitude laptop is fabulous but can’t officially run Windows 11 and I’d like the option to install that OS. This laptop seems to check all of the boxes I really want. It doesn’t have an ethernet port which I’m really spoiled by with my current laptop but an inexpensive hub would surely take care of that. The reviews for this Asus are generally favorable. Reviewers love the OLED screen which as a blind person doesn’t matter to me. I’d prefer something a tad smaller but so far I haven’t found any laptops with these specs for the price. I also acknowledge that I could just continue to use Windows 10 on my current laptop knowing full well that any modern laptop I could buy by 2025 would be even better than what I could buy today and so this purchase is hardly urgent. I’m just wondering if any of you have any experience with Asus, good or otherwise, and if you feel that this particular purchase at an $800.00 price is worth it or are there reasons for avoiding it that I’m not considering.

Many thanks.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

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Re: Seeking Feedback Regarding Your Experiences With Asus and VivoBook Laptops

Nimer Jaber
 

Looks like a decent machine to me. I've had a few Asus laptops, and had an issue with one where the sound card went out, but that is no reason to avoid an entire brand. Also, the lack of a headphone jack is not on every Asus laptop.

Thanks.

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 9:04 PM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

The Microsoft store is offering a Black Friday deal selling this Asus VivoBook K513 laptop for $799.00 featuring a 1 terabyte SSD, 16 GB of RAM and an 11th-generation I7 processor and I have to confess it’s calling to me. I’m considering it as my current Dell Latitude laptop is fabulous but can’t officially run Windows 11 and I’d like the option to install that OS. This laptop seems to check all of the boxes I really want. It doesn’t have an ethernet port which I’m really spoiled by with my current laptop but an inexpensive hub would surely take care of that. The reviews for this Asus are generally favorable. Reviewers love the OLED screen which as a blind person doesn’t matter to me. I’d prefer something a tad smaller but so far I haven’t found any laptops with these specs for the price. I also acknowledge that I could just continue to use Windows 10 on my current laptop knowing full well that any modern laptop I could buy by 2025 would be even better than what I could buy today and so this purchase is hardly urgent. I’m just wondering if any of you have any experience with Asus, good or otherwise, and if you feel that this particular purchase at an $800.00 price is worth it or are there reasons for avoiding it that I’m not considering.

Many thanks.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

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