Full screen isn’t the same as maximize. A lot of programs don’t have full
screen as a display option. We don’t know what program is being asked
about. I won’t answer the question about how to take a full screen shot but
if that is a good way to do what you want, we need to know the program.

Gene
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I have a laptop and I want to make the current window the navigator
object
is in fullscreen, and then take a screenshot.
I know that you can press F11 to go into full screen mode, but NVDA
doesn’t
give any audio feedback and anyway, it doesn’t always seem to work.
I can also press windows and print screen together to get a screenshot,
but
again there is no audio feedback from NVDA or hear any sounds on the
windows desktop, although I know where the eventual images are stored, in
the screenshots folder.

I have a laptop and I want to make the current window the navigator object
is in fullscreen, and then take a screenshot.
I know that you can press F11 to go into full screen mode, but NVDA doesn’t
give any audio feedback and anyway, it doesn’t always seem to work.
I can also press windows and print screen together to get a screenshot, but
again there is no audio feedback from NVDA or hear  any sounds on the
windows desktop, although I know where the eventual images are stored, in
the screenshots folder.

Good Morning:  You forgot a few other keys.  The backspace and slash as well as the colon and backspace come from the typewriter keyboard. The shift key for use with the shift + tab was on the old typewriter keyboards.

Dave

Hi

Tab, space and enter are straight from the forerunner of the computer keyboard, the typewriter.

 

The typewriter used to have tab stops, which allowed the typewriter carriage to be positioned at various points on a page for indentation purposes and the entry of columnized data, the spacebar is a straight forward copy of the typewriter spacebar and the enter key is derived from the mechanical lever used to return  the carriage to the beginning of the line and move the paper up.  This is the source of the “Carriage return line feed” escape sequence used in DOS and it is still used today.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Dave Grossoehme
Sent: 27 December 2021 14:23
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Original reason Windows can be used from the keyboard

 

Hi:  I apologize for being late on this subject.  I'm not an expert here.  However, the alt key was used in commands before windows.  Apple I believe started working on accessible machines before Micro Soft.  However, there are many ways accessibility was being worked upon back in the beginning of the computer age.  We had a blind person that made a tool to put a stylus into to tell which number of punched in a punched card to tell which character had been punched fior a blind person to read it for coding a program.  Then there mwas a program to braille off the big old chain or track driven printers, that brailled 11 lines on one of those large pieces of paper.  It took 11printed lines for one line of braille.  This program was produced in 1970.

Dave

 

On 12/19/2021 5:32 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 05:21 PM, David Mellor wrote:

AT what point did the use of basic (not exactly short cut keys) like tab/space/enter enter the picture?

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I honestly can't answer that other than to say they have been a part of Windows since day one.

In the DOS days I did almost everything via the command line, and other than entering the Enter or Return (that key was, and still is, labeled both ways) to execute something.  I do not recall ever having used tab for navigation or space for "activate/click" as is often done under Windows.

We need another very early adopter of accessibility technology to speak here.  Were my friend Phyllis still with us, I'd ask her, because she started playing with computers and all accessibility software, and devices, almost since the first day one appeared.  She used to hate it on the rare, very rare, occasions she'd need to call on me when something was either actually inaccessible (which was more usual) or required such gyrations to figure out how to access it without any assistance that it made no sense to do so when time was of the essence.  She was entirely sensible about how much time to dedicate to a thorny accessibility issue that she knew full well might take days of frustration to figure out entirely independently rather than calling upon any one of many sighted friends who might, in a flash, be able to alert her to something that the screen reader "couldn't see" at the same time it was dealing with something else.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.

        ~ Mark Twain

 

Hi

Tab, space and enter are straight from the forerunner of the computer keyboard, the typewriter.

 

The typewriter used to have tab stops, which allowed the typewriter carriage to be positioned at various points on a page for indentation purposes and the entry of columnized data, the spacebar is a straight forward copy of the typewriter spacebar and the enter key is derived from the mechanical lever used to return  the carriage to the beginning of the line and move the paper up.  This is the source of the “Carriage return line feed” escape sequence used in DOS and it is still used today.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Dave Grossoehme
Sent: 27 December 2021 14:23
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Original reason Windows can be used from the keyboard

 

Hi:  I apologize for being late on this subject.  I'm not an expert here.  However, the alt key was used in commands before windows.  Apple I believe started working on accessible machines before Micro Soft.  However, there are many ways accessibility was being worked upon back in the beginning of the computer age.  We had a blind person that made a tool to put a stylus into to tell which number of punched in a punched card to tell which character had been punched fior a blind person to read it for coding a program.  Then there mwas a program to braille off the big old chain or track driven printers, that brailled 11 lines on one of those large pieces of paper.  It took 11printed lines for one line of braille.  This program was produced in 1970.

Dave

 

On 12/19/2021 5:32 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 05:21 PM, David Mellor wrote:

AT what point did the use of basic (not exactly short cut keys) like tab/space/enter enter the picture?

-
I honestly can't answer that other than to say they have been a part of Windows since day one.

In the DOS days I did almost everything via the command line, and other than entering the Enter or Return (that key was, and still is, labeled both ways) to execute something.  I do not recall ever having used tab for navigation or space for "activate/click" as is often done under Windows.

We need another very early adopter of accessibility technology to speak here.  Were my friend Phyllis still with us, I'd ask her, because she started playing with computers and all accessibility software, and devices, almost since the first day one appeared.  She used to hate it on the rare, very rare, occasions she'd need to call on me when something was either actually inaccessible (which was more usual) or required such gyrations to figure out how to access it without any assistance that it made no sense to do so when time was of the essence.  She was entirely sensible about how much time to dedicate to a thorny accessibility issue that she knew full well might take days of frustration to figure out entirely independently rather than calling upon any one of many sighted friends who might, in a flash, be able to alert her to something that the screen reader "couldn't see" at the same time it was dealing with something else.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.

        ~ Mark Twain