windows 11 and older processers


 

Hi.

While I know my intel 4th gen will not run windows 11 I wander if my intel 7500 with dch drivers will be able to run windows 11.

It is a 2016/2017 model but has bios updates up to last year 2020.

I also wander if the 6th gen unit I maintain will run windows11 though in either ase I am not clean installing to find out.

It would be good to know especially for the 7th gen unit if after 4 years and as long as I don't replace it if windows 11 will run on it.

It does meet all requirements othherwise and does use the dch drivers though I have had to install them manually.


Bob Jutzi <jutzi@...>
 

If your system supports TPM (Trusted Platform manager) you should be good.  Two ways to find out, 1. From the Run command line, type tpm.msc, or 2. Open Device Manager, enter 's' until you get to the Secure Devices tab (if present) and if will show TPM 2.0.

On 8/28/2021 7:54 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
> Hi. > > While I know my intel 4th gen will not run windows 11 I wander if my > intel 7500 with dch drivers will be able to run windows 11. > > It is a 2016/2017 model but has bios updates up to last year 2020. > > I also wander if the 6th gen unit I maintain will run windows11 > though in either ase I am not clean installing to find out. > > It would be good to know especially for the 7th gen unit if after 4 > years and as long as I don't replace it if windows 11 will run on > it. > > It does meet all requirements othherwise and does use the dch drivers > though I have had to install them manually. > > > > > > >


David Goldfield
 

Hi. One minor correction. TPM stands for Trusted Platform Module.

 

 

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From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Jutzi
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 8:07 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] windows 11 and older processers

 

If your system supports TPM (Trusted Platform manager) you should be good.  Two ways to find out, 1. From the Run command line, type tpm.msc, or 2. Open Device Manager, enter 's' until you get to the Secure Devices tab (if present) and if will show TPM 2.0.

On 8/28/2021 7:54 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
> Hi. > > While I know my intel 4th gen will not run windows 11 I wander if my > intel 7500 with dch drivers will be able to run windows 11. > > It is a 2016/2017 model but has bios updates up to last year 2020. > > I also wander if the 6th gen unit I maintain will run windows11 > though in either ase I am not clean installing to find out. > > It would be good to know especially for the 7th gen unit if after 4 > years and as long as I don't replace it if windows 11 will run on > it. > > It does meet all requirements othherwise and does use the dch drivers > though I have had to install them manually. > > > > > > >


 

Yes my 7500 supports tpm 2.0 I checked this.

The other units don't even have this but I think those will just get replaced when I need to.



On 29/08/2021 12:07 pm, Bob Jutzi wrote:

If your system supports TPM (Trusted Platform manager) you should be good.  Two ways to find out, 1. From the Run command line, type tpm.msc, or 2. Open Device Manager, enter 's' until you get to the Secure Devices tab (if present) and if will show TPM 2.0.

On 8/28/2021 7:54 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
> Hi. > > While I know my intel 4th gen will not run windows 11 I wander if my > intel 7500 with dch drivers will be able to run windows 11. > > It is a 2016/2017 model but has bios updates up to last year 2020. > > I also wander if the 6th gen unit I maintain will run windows11 > though in either ase I am not clean installing to find out. > > It would be good to know especially for the 7th gen unit if after 4 > years and as long as I don't replace it if windows 11 will run on > it. > > It does meet all requirements othherwise and does use the dch drivers > though I have had to install them manually. > > > > > > >


 

And since Windows 10 will be supported until 2025, those who have older processors (including myself) have nothing to worry about.  By the time Windows 10 reaches end of life, any machine I have, including this one with an i7-4700MQ, will be over 10 years old and surely in need of replacement.

What follows is pure speculation on my part, but I won't be shocked if Windows 10 support ends up being extended past its original end of life date since there are a number of very recent hardware, as of this writing, that can't be upgraded to Windows 11, and that won't be ready for the recycling bin by 2025.
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Rob Hudson <rob_hudson3182@...>
 

Microsoft has scaled back some of the requirements.
Alongside a new preview build of Windows 11, Microsoft announced a significant update to Windows 11 minimum hardware requirements. The company has been blocking old Windows 10 PCs from downloading preview Windows 11 builds, allowing the new system to run only on devices with Intel 8th / AMD Ryzen 2nd gen CPUs and up. Following users' discontent with hardware requirements and evaluating data from early testers, Microsoft decided to backtrack some of the compatibility rules. Now, any Windows 10-compatible PC can run Windows 11 without significant limitations.
When it comes to upgrading PCs with unsupported processors to Windows 11, Microsoft says users are free to clean-install the system using official ISOs. If your computer has a 64-bit CPU with two cores running at 1GHz, 4 GB of RAM, and 64GB of storage, you are good to go.

I also believe they are going to remove the requirement for TPM, but tthat's not official, just rumors, and should be taken as a grain of salt.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 18:08:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [chat] windows 11 and older processers

And since Windows 10 will be supported until 2025, those who have older processors (including myself) have nothing to worry about. By the time Windows 10 reaches end of life, any machine I have, including this one with an i7-4700MQ, will be over 10 years old and surely in need of replacement.

What follows is pure speculation on my part, but I won't be shocked if Windows 10 support ends up being extended past its original end of life date since there are a number of very recent hardware, as of this writing, that can't be upgraded to Windows 11, and that won't be ready for the recycling bin by 2025.
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~ Ann Landers







Bob Jutzi <jutzi@...>
 

Thanks.  Not sure why I wrote Manager.

On 8/28/2021 8:11 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi. One minor correction. TPM stands for Trusted Platform Module.

 

 

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From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Jutzi
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 8:07 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] windows 11 and older processers

 

If your system supports TPM (Trusted Platform manager) you should be good.  Two ways to find out, 1. From the Run command line, type tpm.msc, or 2. Open Device Manager, enter 's' until you get to the Secure Devices tab (if present) and if will show TPM 2.0.

On 8/28/2021 7:54 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
> Hi. > > While I know my intel 4th gen will not run windows 11 I wander if my > intel 7500 with dch drivers will be able to run windows 11. > > It is a 2016/2017 model but has bios updates up to last year 2020. > > I also wander if the 6th gen unit I maintain will run windows11 > though in either ase I am not clean installing to find out. > > It would be good to know especially for the 7th gen unit if after 4 > years and as long as I don't replace it if windows 11 will run on > it. > > It does meet all requirements othherwise and does use the dch drivers > though I have had to install them manually. > > > > > > >



 

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 09:34 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
When it comes to upgrading PCs with unsupported processors to Windows 11, Microsoft says users are free to clean-install the system using official ISOs.
-
Indeed.  But they also warn that you won't get updates, so it would be insanity to take this route.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/28/22646035/microsoft-windows-11-iso-workaround-no-update-guarantee 
 
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The poor wish to be rich, the rich wish to be happy, the single wish to be married, and the married wish to be dead.

       ~ Ann Landers


John J. Boyer
 

I typed tpm.dsc in the run box and got the message "There was an eror opening the trusted platform module." What does that mean?

Thanks,
John

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 08:07:00PM -0400, Bob Jutzi wrote:
If your system supports TPM (Trusted Platform manager) you should be
good.  Two ways to find out, 1. From the Run command line, type tpm.msc,
or 2. Open Device Manager, enter 's' until you get to the Secure Devices
tab (if present) and if will show TPM 2.0.

On 8/28/2021 7:54 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi. > > While I know my intel 4th gen will not run windows 11 I wander if
my > intel 7500 with dch drivers will be able to run windows 11. > > It
is a 2016/2017 model but has bios updates up to last year 2020. > > I
also wander if the 6th gen unit I maintain will run windows11 > though
in either ase I am not clean installing to find out. > > It would be
good to know especially for the 7th gen unit if after 4 > years and as
long as I don't replace it if windows 11 will run on > it. > > It does
meet all requirements othherwise and does use the dch drivers > though I
have had to install them manually. > > > > > > >





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Which is why I am asking.

My 4th generation aint gona cut it but its not like the user needs it.

The user that I have on the 7th gen is happy with 10.

However there is always that option if I wanted to.

That being said I really hope they either fix the default association thing or someone makes a hack so we can associate things like we do on windows 10 because right now microsoft are really trying to make users use their software which is fair but associating via each filetype is going to be madness.

On 29/08/2021 1:34 pm, Rob Hudson wrote:
Microsoft has scaled back some of the requirements.
Alongside a new preview build of Windows 11, Microsoft announced a significant update to Windows 11 minimum hardware requirements. The company has been blocking old Windows 10 PCs from downloading preview Windows 11 builds, allowing the new system to run only on devices with Intel 8th / AMD Ryzen 2nd gen CPUs and up. Following users' discontent with hardware requirements and evaluating data from early testers, Microsoft decided to backtrack some of the compatibility rules. Now, any Windows 10-compatible PC can run Windows 11 without significant limitations.
When it comes to upgrading PCs with unsupported processors to Windows 11, Microsoft says users are free to clean-install the system using official ISOs. If your computer has a 64-bit CPU with two cores running at 1GHz, 4 GB of RAM, and 64GB of storage, you are good to go.

I also believe they are going to remove the requirement for TPM, but tthat's not official, just rumors, and should be taken as a grain of salt.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 18:08:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [chat] windows 11 and older processers

And since Windows 10 will be supported until 2025, those who have older processors (including myself) have nothing to worry about.� By the time Windows 10 reaches end of life, any machine I have, including this one with an i7-4700MQ, will be over 10 years old and surely in need of replacement.

What follows is pure speculation on my part, but I won't be shocked if Windows 10 support ends up being extended past its original end of life date since there are a number of very recent hardware, as of this writing, that can't be upgraded to Windows 11, and that won't be ready for the recycling bin by 2025.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*The poor wish to be rich, the rich wish to be happy, the single wish to be married, and the married wish to be dead.*

~ Ann Landers








 

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:57 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
"There was an error opening the trusted platform module." What does that mean?
-
Most likely that the TPM exists, but is not activated in BIOS/UEFI.  If there's not a TPM present you should get the window opening and telling you, "Compatible TPM cannot be found."

There are other possibilities, but that's what I'd check first.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

The poor wish to be rich, the rich wish to be happy, the single wish to be married, and the married wish to be dead.

       ~ Ann Landers