Hello NVDA Chat,
For your convenience, I am pasting the following link or URL below. My
questions follow.

Use Mouse Keys to move the mouse pointer - Microsoft Support
https://support.microsoft.com › en-us › windows › use-...
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To turn on Mouse Keys · Open Ease of Access Center by clicking the
Start button Start button icon , clicking Control Panel, clicking Ease
of Access, and then ...

Since instructions are stated in 'click' form, does this make this
tool more tailored to the sighted user, or is click synonymous with
enter?

It seems that hot key commands, also called shortcut keys, are giving
way to a website using icons and mouse clicks in order for one to
access its features. Doesn't this tend to pose red flags to the whole
notion of accessibility?
Can a website be put under some kind of obligation to reinstall former
features that worked for the general population let alone blind or
other disabled folk?

Thanks in advance for your comments or input.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 02:06 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

If you learn the sighted language and do things a cited way, you will be okay.

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On this, we're in absolute agreement.  Documentation, except that written exclusively for screen reader users, is always going to be phrased as "point and click."  If you cannot translate point to "gain focus on [and select, when applicable]" and "activate" you have absolutely no one to blame but yourself for that shortcoming.

The overwhelming majority of technical documentation, for everything, is going to be written for individuals who are sighted, who constitute probably at least 98%, if not 99% or above, of the total user base.  You cut yourself off from almost everything if you are unwilling to do the simple "point and click to keyboard actions" translations needed to use that documentation.

When I was a cognitive rehabilitation therapist I used to tell all of my clients that, whether fair or not, one of their major jobs in life going forward was to configure themselves to "how the world is" to the maximum extent possible, because it's never going to configure itself to you.  And that's true for all of us, regardless of visual status, disability status, etc.  You've got to find a way that works for you to exploit available resources as they exist.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.

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On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 05:32 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Not everyone wants, or needs to know what you know, or I know.

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Which is utterly beside the point, because no one is claiming that the totality of personal knowledge should be the same, or even vaguely similar.

What is being said is that the basic "sighted jargon" in instructions that use point and click terminology should be very easily understandable by any blind computer user.  Really, if you cannot be bothered to learn the few basic mouse point and click to keyboard translations, and they are relatively few, then you're cutting yourself off from the vast majority of the tutorials and other information out there.

With regard to the sighted that use keyboard shortcuts, they definitely exist but most are either old (literally) and old-school users who have been working since the DOS days and/or those who are involved with very data entry intensive jobs where removing one's hands from the keyboard slows things down significantly.  I can definitely say, though, that when it comes to the sighted most have no idea of the vast majority of keyboard shortcuts.  The holy trinity of cut (CTRL + X), Copy (CTRL + C), and Paste (CTRL + V) being noteable exceptions, and even that knowledge is far from universal.  What amazes me is that those using point and click very often have never paid the slightest bit of attention to the keyboard shortcuts that are shown in the context menus themselves each and every time they use point and click.

But, and it applies to me, too, almost all of us either learn one way of doing something and stick with it because there's no pressing need to change or know of multiple ways to do something but always discuss our preferred method.  It's interesting when you get someone who was clearly taught by someone who had no idea of what "the most efficient way" was to do a given thing and has, often for many years, been using a convoluted way to do something that can be greatly simplified using another way.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

    ~Bertrand Russell

If you learn the sighted language and do things a cited way, you will be
okay.

Not everyone wants, or needs to know what you know, or I know.