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Yes it does, however on my land line my call screener does not ring my phones it asks them to say their name, If they don't or start playing a recording it cuts them off and puts the number in a block list on your say so. The problem with this both on mobile and land line is that they use any old number and spoof it or they call from a premium rate number then hang up in the hope the missed call will be dialled and they get money from the premium rate connection.
There needs to be, in the telecom industry, more time and money spent on tracking down these people and stopping these money generating schemes in my view, but telecom operators don't care as they make money from them when somebody calls a premium number by accident as well.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...> To: <chat@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [chat] amazon scam call So if your answering machine picks up the call that doesn't tell them they have a active number? On 7/13/2022 4:42 PM, JM Casey wrote: Yeah…there are some cute youtube channels where people mess with
scammers in various clever or not so clever ways, and they can be fun to
watch. But you shouldn’t’ do this with your real phone number. People
8can* get vindicitve and you 8will* get more calls like this if you push
the number or answer their calls. I used to enjoy this sort of thign too
on occasion and by all means, have some fun witht hem if you want, but I
think ultimatelyt eh best thign to do is just ignore the calls – don’t
even pick up – now that we all pretty much have caller iD, there’s
really no reason to anyway, unless you’re really really hankering for a
human voice to talk to – I know there were some points during Coronatime
where it almost got that bad for me, and even a scam caller would have
been welcome. Haha
*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* July 13, 2022 05:15 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] amazon scam call
There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one.
If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or whatever the
recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a do not call list,
that tells the spammer that they have reached a live number and one
where the person answers spam calls. You may get more spam calls in
future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering
machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon.
No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it
said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press 1
to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed 1
and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help you
I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who
happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is
definitely a professional customer service person.
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You need to be very careful, as if they do have your banking details, keying 1 can be used in court to say you agreed to buy it,at least in the UK, which was why, remote selling cooling off periods were introduced a few years ago.
I had one pre recorded call to my mobile the other day warning people about scam calls and how their service could remove them completely for only X dollars a month, a kind of parasitic scam!
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From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <chat@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 10:01 PM
Subject: [chat] amazon scam call
So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon. No
need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it said I had
ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press 1 to accept the
order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed 1 and when the
person answered with This is Amazon how may I help you I said in a panic
voice "What do I do now?". The person who happened to be female said "
F you" and hung up. Now that is definitely a professional customer
service person.
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I can't say length has nothing to do with it. If someone had a ridiculously short outgoing message such as just saying leave a message, I don't know what the machine would do. But most or almost all outgoing messages are longer.
This article says that such machines can tell when an answering machine is being used. It doesn't explain how the machine detects one.
Gene
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On 7/14/2022 1:11 PM, JM Casey wrote: I understood that, and maybe some of them do, but I'm not sure it's the majority -- I think the answer is much simpler in most cases -- it's simply a matte3r of timing.
So it depends on how long your greeting is, basically.
-----Original Message-----
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 13, 2022 07:45 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] amazon scam call
I'm not saying the machines listen for what people say. I'm saying that if these machines start playing a message when the phone is answered, the answering machine at your location will continue to play the outgoing message even after the spam machine starts playing its message. I suspect that some of these machines know that if speech on the other end continues, with no pause to listen to what the spam message is saying, that there is not a live caller.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 6:39 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Gene...
Perhaps the quality of the dialer software these people use varies, but that hasn't been my experience at least half the time. I don't believe most of them are congisant of whether they have reached a machine or not. Many people answer the phone with unusual or specific readings besides "hello", anyway, so I suppose this method to not entirely be reliable. It could also be that in some cases, the duration of the incoming automated recording exceeds the duration of the voicemail greeting and, when the system fails to receive a response in a quick enough time, it just disconnects the call.
Or, indeed, some of them could really be as 'smart" as you suggest. I have certainly gotten a great many robocall messages left on my voicemail -- but others do seem to not keep speaking/leave messages.
-----Original Message-----
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 13, 2022 06:09 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] amazon scam call
No. The automated systems they use are smart. Many of them just hang up when they can tell that it is an answering machine.
I can't tell you how the automated systems work but perhaps one way is if the outgoing announcement continues to play when the incoming recording starts to play. A real person would not speak after saying something like hello.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:48 PM, Don H wrote:
So if your answering machine picks up the call that doesn't tell them
they have a active number?
On 7/13/2022 4:42 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Yeah…there are some cute youtube channels where people mess with
scammers in various clever or not so clever ways, and they can be
fun to watch. But you shouldn’t’ do this with your real phone number.
People
8can* get vindicitve and you 8will* get more calls like this if you
push the number or answer their calls. I used to enjoy this sort of
thign too on occasion and by all means, have some fun witht hem if
you want, but I think ultimatelyt eh best thign to do is just ignore
the calls – don’t even pick up – now that we all pretty much have
caller iD, there’s really no reason to anyway, unless you’re really
really hankering for a human voice to talk to – I know there were
some points during Coronatime where it almost got that bad for me,
and even a scam caller would have been welcome. Haha
*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* July 13, 2022 05:15 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] amazon scam call
There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one.
If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or whatever
the recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a do not
call list, that tells the spammer that they have reached a live
number and one where the person answers spam calls. You may get
more spam calls in future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering
machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon.
No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it
said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to
press
1
to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I
pressed
1
and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help
you
I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who
happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is
definitely a professional customer service person.
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I understood that, and maybe some of them do, but I'm not sure it's the majority -- I think the answer is much simpler in most cases -- it's simply a matte3r of timing.
So it depends on how long your greeting is, basically.
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-----Original Message----- From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: July 13, 2022 07:45 PM To: chat@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [chat] amazon scam call I'm not saying the machines listen for what people say. I'm saying that if these machines start playing a message when the phone is answered, the answering machine at your location will continue to play the outgoing message even after the spam machine starts playing its message. I suspect that some of these machines know that if speech on the other end continues, with no pause to listen to what the spam message is saying, that there is not a live caller. Gene On 7/13/2022 6:39 PM, JM Casey wrote: Gene...
Perhaps the quality of the dialer software these people use varies, but that hasn't been my experience at least half the time. I don't believe most of them are congisant of whether they have reached a machine or not. Many people answer the phone with unusual or specific readings besides "hello", anyway, so I suppose this method to not entirely be reliable. It could also be that in some cases, the duration of the incoming automated recording exceeds the duration of the voicemail greeting and, when the system fails to receive a response in a quick enough time, it just disconnects the call.
Or, indeed, some of them could really be as 'smart" as you suggest. I have certainly gotten a great many robocall messages left on my voicemail -- but others do seem to not keep speaking/leave messages.
-----Original Message-----
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 13, 2022 06:09 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] amazon scam call
No. The automated systems they use are smart. Many of them just hang up when they can tell that it is an answering machine.
I can't tell you how the automated systems work but perhaps one way is if the outgoing announcement continues to play when the incoming recording starts to play. A real person would not speak after saying something like hello.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:48 PM, Don H wrote:
So if your answering machine picks up the call that doesn't tell them
they have a active number?
On 7/13/2022 4:42 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Yeah…there are some cute youtube channels where people mess with
scammers in various clever or not so clever ways, and they can be
fun to watch. But you shouldn’t’ do this with your real phone number.
People
8can* get vindicitve and you 8will* get more calls like this if you
push the number or answer their calls. I used to enjoy this sort of
thign too on occasion and by all means, have some fun witht hem if
you want, but I think ultimatelyt eh best thign to do is just ignore
the calls – don’t even pick up – now that we all pretty much have
caller iD, there’s really no reason to anyway, unless you’re really
really hankering for a human voice to talk to – I know there were
some points during Coronatime where it almost got that bad for me,
and even a scam caller would have been welcome. Haha
*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* July 13, 2022 05:15 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] amazon scam call
There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one.
If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or whatever
the recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a do not
call list, that tells the spammer that they have reached a live
number and one where the person answers spam calls. You may get
more spam calls in future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering
machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon.
No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it
said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to
press
1
to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I
pressed
1
and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help
you
I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who
happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is
definitely a professional customer service person.
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I agree.
search for blindly scambating on youtube and look at it.
They did advertize some a bit ago but they are all out of
australia and are quite good at what they do.
Firstly, I'd see if you are comfortable with the scam, some of
these you can really screw with, just remember not to lose
yourself.
I had some fun with a scammer once which was a straight forward
scam run and I was able to get rid of him quite easily.
However remember to not get stuck and gotten yourself.
You can always submit something you are not sure about to blindly
scambating itself, I forget now but they do say.
These guys have vpns, virtual machines and several other things
to hide themselves.
I mean we are talking about a professional at least mostly group.
But yeah be carefull.
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There
are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one.
If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or
whatever the recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on
a do not call list, that tells the spammer that they have reached
a live number and one where the person answers spam calls. You
may get more spam calls in future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my
answering machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I
keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon. No
need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it
said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press
1 to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I
pressed 1 and when the person answered with This is Amazon how
may I help you I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The
person who happened to be female said " F you" and hung up.
Now that is definitely a professional customer service person.
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I'm not saying the machines listen for what people say. I'm saying that if these machines start playing a message when the phone is answered, the answering machine at your location will continue to play the outgoing message even after the spam machine starts playing its message. I suspect that some of these machines know that if speech on the other end continues, with no pause to listen to what the spam message is saying, that there is not a live caller.
Gene
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On 7/13/2022 6:39 PM, JM Casey wrote: Gene...
Perhaps the quality of the dialer software these people use varies, but that hasn't been my experience at least half the time. I don't believe most of them are congisant of whether they have reached a machine or not. Many people answer the phone with unusual or specific readings besides "hello", anyway, so I suppose this method to not entirely be reliable. It could also be that in some cases, the duration of the incoming automated recording exceeds the duration of the voicemail greeting and, when the system fails to receive a response in a quick enough time, it just disconnects the call.
Or, indeed, some of them could really be as 'smart" as you suggest. I have certainly gotten a great many robocall messages left on my voicemail -- but others do seem to not keep speaking/leave messages.
-----Original Message-----
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 13, 2022 06:09 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] amazon scam call
No. The automated systems they use are smart. Many of them just hang up when they can tell that it is an answering machine.
I can't tell you how the automated systems work but perhaps one way is if the outgoing announcement continues to play when the incoming recording starts to play. A real person would not speak after saying something like hello.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:48 PM, Don H wrote:
So if your answering machine picks up the call that doesn't tell them
they have a active number?
On 7/13/2022 4:42 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Yeah…there are some cute youtube channels where people mess with
scammers in various clever or not so clever ways, and they can be fun
to watch. But you shouldn’t’ do this with your real phone number.
People
8can* get vindicitve and you 8will* get more calls like this if you
push the number or answer their calls. I used to enjoy this sort of
thign too on occasion and by all means, have some fun witht hem if
you want, but I think ultimatelyt eh best thign to do is just ignore
the calls – don’t even pick up – now that we all pretty much have
caller iD, there’s really no reason to anyway, unless you’re really
really hankering for a human voice to talk to – I know there were
some points during Coronatime where it almost got that bad for me,
and even a scam caller would have been welcome. Haha
*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* July 13, 2022 05:15 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] amazon scam call
There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one.
If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or whatever
the recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a do not
call list, that tells the spammer that they have reached a live
number and one where the person answers spam calls. You may get more
spam calls in future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering
machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon.
No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it
said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press
1
to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed
1
and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help
you
I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who
happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is
definitely a professional customer service person.
.
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Gene...
Perhaps the quality of the dialer software these people use varies, but that hasn't been my experience at least half the time. I don't believe most of them are congisant of whether they have reached a machine or not. Many people answer the phone with unusual or specific readings besides "hello", anyway, so I suppose this method to not entirely be reliable. It could also be that in some cases, the duration of the incoming automated recording exceeds the duration of the voicemail greeting and, when the system fails to receive a response in a quick enough time, it just disconnects the call.
Or, indeed, some of them could really be as 'smart" as you suggest. I have certainly gotten a great many robocall messages left on my voicemail -- but others do seem to not keep speaking/leave messages.
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-----Original Message----- From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: July 13, 2022 06:09 PM To: chat@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [chat] amazon scam call No. The automated systems they use are smart. Many of them just hang up when they can tell that it is an answering machine. I can't tell you how the automated systems work but perhaps one way is if the outgoing announcement continues to play when the incoming recording starts to play. A real person would not speak after saying something like hello. Gene On 7/13/2022 4:48 PM, Don H wrote: So if your answering machine picks up the call that doesn't tell them
they have a active number?
On 7/13/2022 4:42 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Yeah…there are some cute youtube channels where people mess with
scammers in various clever or not so clever ways, and they can be fun
to watch. But you shouldn’t’ do this with your real phone number.
People
8can* get vindicitve and you 8will* get more calls like this if you
push the number or answer their calls. I used to enjoy this sort of
thign too on occasion and by all means, have some fun witht hem if
you want, but I think ultimatelyt eh best thign to do is just ignore
the calls – don’t even pick up – now that we all pretty much have
caller iD, there’s really no reason to anyway, unless you’re really
really hankering for a human voice to talk to – I know there were
some points during Coronatime where it almost got that bad for me,
and even a scam caller would have been welcome. Haha
*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* July 13, 2022 05:15 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] amazon scam call
There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one.
If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or whatever
the recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a do not
call list, that tells the spammer that they have reached a live
number and one where the person answers spam calls. You may get more
spam calls in future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering
machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon.
No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it
said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press
1
to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed
1
and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help
you
I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who
happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is
definitely a professional customer service person.
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No. The automated systems they use are smart. Many of them just hang up when they can tell that it is an answering machine.
I can't tell you how the automated systems work but perhaps one way is if the outgoing announcement continues to play when the incoming recording starts to play. A real person would not speak after saying something like hello.
Gene
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On 7/13/2022 4:48 PM, Don H wrote: So if your answering machine picks up the call that doesn't tell them
they have a active number?
On 7/13/2022 4:42 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Yeah…there are some cute youtube channels where people mess with
scammers in various clever or not so clever ways, and they can be fun to
watch. But you shouldn’t’ do this with your real phone number. People
8can* get vindicitve and you 8will* get more calls like this if you push
the number or answer their calls. I used to enjoy this sort of thign too
on occasion and by all means, have some fun witht hem if you want, but I
think ultimatelyt eh best thign to do is just ignore the calls – don’t
even pick up – now that we all pretty much have caller iD, there’s
really no reason to anyway, unless you’re really really hankering for a
human voice to talk to – I know there were some points during Coronatime
where it almost got that bad for me, and even a scam caller would have
been welcome. Haha
*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* July 13, 2022 05:15 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] amazon scam call
There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one.
If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or whatever the
recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a do not call list,
that tells the spammer that they have reached a live number and one
where the person answers spam calls. You may get more spam calls in
future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering
machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon.
No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it
said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press 1
to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed 1
and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help you
I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who
happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is
definitely a professional customer service person.
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Usually not. They seem unaware that the machine is going on and just keep doing their spiel during the silence. They know something has picked up the call but not what that something is -- could be any kind of recording and not necessarily a live call. Pressing 1 definitely does indicate a live call, though.
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-----Original Message----- From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: July 13, 2022 05:49 PM To: chat@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [chat] amazon scam call So if your answering machine picks up the call that doesn't tell them they have a active number? On 7/13/2022 4:42 PM, JM Casey wrote: Yeah…there are some cute youtube channels where people mess with
scammers in various clever or not so clever ways, and they can be fun
to watch. But you shouldn’t’ do this with your real phone number.
People
8can* get vindicitve and you 8will* get more calls like this if you
push the number or answer their calls. I used to enjoy this sort of
thign too on occasion and by all means, have some fun witht hem if you
want, but I think ultimatelyt eh best thign to do is just ignore the
calls – don’t even pick up – now that we all pretty much have caller
iD, there’s really no reason to anyway, unless you’re really really
hankering for a human voice to talk to – I know there were some points
during Coronatime where it almost got that bad for me, and even a scam
caller would have been welcome. Haha
*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* July 13, 2022 05:15 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] amazon scam call
There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one.
If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or whatever
the recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a do not call
list, that tells the spammer that they have reached a live number and
one where the person answers spam calls. You may get more spam calls
in future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering
machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon.
No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it
said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press 1
to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed 1
and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help you
I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who
happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is
definitely a professional customer service person.
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So if your answering machine picks up the call that doesn't tell them
they have a active number?
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On 7/13/2022 4:42 PM, JM Casey wrote: Yeah…there are some cute youtube channels where people mess with
scammers in various clever or not so clever ways, and they can be fun to
watch. But you shouldn’t’ do this with your real phone number. People
8can* get vindicitve and you 8will* get more calls like this if you push
the number or answer their calls. I used to enjoy this sort of thign too
on occasion and by all means, have some fun witht hem if you want, but I
think ultimatelyt eh best thign to do is just ignore the calls – don’t
even pick up – now that we all pretty much have caller iD, there’s
really no reason to anyway, unless you’re really really hankering for a
human voice to talk to – I know there were some points during Coronatime
where it almost got that bad for me, and even a scam caller would have
been welcome. Haha
*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* July 13, 2022 05:15 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] amazon scam call
There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one.
If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or whatever the
recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a do not call list,
that tells the spammer that they have reached a live number and one
where the person answers spam calls. You may get more spam calls in
future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering
machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon.
No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it
said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press 1
to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed 1
and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help you
I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who
happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is
definitely a professional customer service person.
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Yeah…there are some cute youtube channels where people mess with scammers in various clever or not so clever ways, and they can be fun to watch. But you shouldn’t’ do this with your real phone number. People 8can* get vindicitve and you 8will* get more calls like this if you push the number or answer their calls. I used to enjoy this sort of thign too on occasion and by all means, have some fun witht hem if you want, but I think ultimatelyt eh best thign to do is just ignore the calls – don’t even pick up – now that we all pretty much have caller iD, there’s really no reason to anyway, unless you’re really really hankering for a human voice to talk to – I know there were some points during Coronatime where it almost got that bad for me, and even a scam caller would have been welcome. Haha
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 13, 2022 05:15 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] amazon scam call There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good one. If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or whatever the recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a do not call list, that tells the spammer that they have reached a live number and one where the person answers spam calls. You may get more spam calls in future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering machine, I never do anything.
Gene On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote: So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon. No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press 1 to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed 1 and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help you I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is definitely a professional customer service person.
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There are all sorts of ways to waste time but this is not a good
one. If you answer a spam call, or do something like press 9 or
whatever the recording tells you to do to supposedly be placed on a
do not call list, that tells the spammer that they have reached a
live number and one where the person answers spam calls. You may
get more spam calls in future as a result.
If I get a spam call and I hear the recorded message on my answering
machine, I never do anything.
Gene
On 7/13/2022 4:01 PM, Don H wrote:
So I
keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon. No
need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it said
I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press 1 to
accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed 1
and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help
you I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who
happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is
definitely a professional customer service person.
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So I keep getting these scam calls that say they are from Amazon. No need to tell me that they are not from Amazon. Well today it said I had ordered a Apple Mac Pro laptop for $1499 and to press 1 to accept the order. Liking to screw with these people I pressed 1 and when the person answered with This is Amazon how may I help you I said in a panic voice "What do I do now?". The person who happened to be female said " F you" and hung up. Now that is definitely a professional customer service person.
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