Replacing Jarte


farhan israk
 

You may try libreoffice or google docs.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 1:53 PM Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Word always feels very much slower to me to be honest. A bit like typing
into a web form.
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 10:15 AM, Carlos wrote:

>
> Having to use Word to read documents that don't require special formatting
> is a bit too much for basic documents.

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Uh, why?

Opening and just reading a document is not very much different in Notepad,
WordPad, Jarte, MS-Word, Libre Office Writer, and the list goes on and on.
Open, gain focus where you want it, read all.

Working with writing a document can be quite a bit more complex, but only if
you wish to apply formatting. Typing up a note in Word versus any of the
above if all you want is text is exactly the same in all of them. Type,
save, done.
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Word always feels very much slower to me to be honest. A bit like typing into a web form.
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 10:15 AM, Carlos wrote:


Having to use Word to read documents that don't require special formatting
is a bit too much for basic documents.
-
Uh, why?

Opening and just reading a document is not very much different in Notepad, WordPad, Jarte, MS-Word, Libre Office Writer, and the list goes on and on. Open, gain focus where you want it, read all.

Working with writing a document can be quite a bit more complex, but only if you wish to apply formatting. Typing up a note in Word versus any of the above if all you want is text is exactly the same in all of them. Type, save, done.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.*

~ Martin Luther King, Jr.


David Goldfield
 

Gene wrote:

 

>I don't know what the state is on fast current computers …

 

The faster and more modern the computer is the faster Word will open. I agree that the wait time is slower on older machines but on a fast machine it’s almost as fast as Wordpad or Notepad.

 

>I recall problems of slower responsiveness when moving around documents for screen-reader users using Word.

 

This may have been the case with NVDA on some machines but I think this has been largely dealt with, particularly on up-to-date systems. With JAWS there may have been slight differences between responsiveness in Word compared to Jarte or Wordpad but now the differences are almost imperceptible.

 

 

 

 

 

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From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 11:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [chat] Replacing Jarte

 

I seldom use Word but I think people want  a program that opens faster.  I don't know what the state is on fast current computers but on computers I use, being somewhat old and slower, Word opens much more slowly than Wordpad, Jarte, or other such programs.

Also, and again, this may no longer be the case, but I recall problems of slower responsiveness when moving around documents for screen-reader users using Word.

I can only say that on my machines, I use small programs to read Word files because the programs open much faster and often responsiveness is better.

Gene

On 8/4/2022 9:55 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 10:15 AM, Carlos wrote:

Having to use Word to read documents that don't require special formatting is a bit too much for basic documents.

-
Uh, why?

Opening and just reading a document is not very much different in Notepad, WordPad, Jarte, MS-Word, Libre Office Writer, and the list goes on and on.  Open, gain focus where you want it, read all.

Working with writing a document can be quite a bit more complex, but only if you wish to apply formatting.  Typing up a note in Word versus any of the above if all you want is text is exactly the same in all of them.  Type, save, done.
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Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

   ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

 


Gene
 

I seldom use Word but I think people want  a program that opens faster.  I don't know what the state is on fast current computers but on computers I use, being somewhat old and slower, Word opens much more slowly than Wordpad, Jarte, or other such programs.

Also, and again, this may no longer be the case, but I recall problems of slower responsiveness when moving around documents for screen-reader users using Word.

I can only say that on my machines, I use small programs to read Word files because the programs open much faster and often responsiveness is better.

Gene

On 8/4/2022 9:55 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 10:15 AM, Carlos wrote:
Having to use Word to read documents that don't require special formatting is a bit too much for basic documents.
-
Uh, why?

Opening and just reading a document is not very much different in Notepad, WordPad, Jarte, MS-Word, Libre Office Writer, and the list goes on and on.  Open, gain focus where you want it, read all.

Working with writing a document can be quite a bit more complex, but only if you wish to apply formatting.  Typing up a note in Word versus any of the above if all you want is text is exactly the same in all of them.  Type, save, done.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

   ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.



 

On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 10:15 AM, Carlos wrote:
Having to use Word to read documents that don't require special formatting is a bit too much for basic documents.
-
Uh, why?

Opening and just reading a document is not very much different in Notepad, WordPad, Jarte, MS-Word, Libre Office Writer, and the list goes on and on.  Open, gain focus where you want it, read all.

Working with writing a document can be quite a bit more complex, but only if you wish to apply formatting.  Typing up a note in Word versus any of the above if all you want is text is exactly the same in all of them.  Type, save, done.
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Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

   ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.


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Wordpad doesn't crash more than the occasional crash any program may
experience unless there is a problem. What do you want to do that JARTE
doesn't do? JARTE will read DOCX files if you get a converter, though I
don't think that is the right term, from Microsoft. You can't edit and
save a docx file in the docx format but it reads them.

You may want to do things JARTE doesn't do but it still works well.

Gene

On 8/4/2022 9:15 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello All
Since Jarte is no longer supported. Which lightweight word processors
work well with NVDA and other screen readers?
I do have Microsoft 365. But! Having to use Word to read documents
that don't require special formatting is a bit too much for basic
documents. And, Wordpad has some of the same bugs as other MS programs
that love to crash at any given time!
Thank You For any and all suggestions offered!










Gene
 

Wordpad doesn't crash more than the occasional crash any program may experience unless there is a problem.  What do you want to do that JARTE doesn't do?  JARTE will read DOCX files if you get a converter, though I don't think that is the right term, from Microsoft.  You can't edit and save a docx file in the docx format but it reads them.

You may want to do things JARTE doesn't do but it still works well.

Gene

On 8/4/2022 9:15 AM, Carlos wrote:

Hello All
Since Jarte is no longer supported. Which lightweight word processors work well with NVDA and other screen readers?
I do have Microsoft 365. But! Having to use Word to read documents that don't require special formatting is a bit too much for basic documents. And, Wordpad has some of the same bugs as other MS programs that love to crash at any given time!
Thank You For any and all suggestions offered!








Carlos
 

Hello All
Since Jarte is no longer supported. Which lightweight word processors work well with NVDA and other screen readers?
I do have Microsoft 365. But! Having to use Word to read documents that don't require special formatting is a bit too much for basic documents. And, Wordpad has some of the same bugs as other MS programs that love to crash at any given time!
Thank You For any and all suggestions offered!