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can't access an attached pdf in thunderbird
Mary Otten
Hi Dave,
I use NVDA, and I did subsequently access the file after seeing Brian V's note.
Mary
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I use NVDA, and I did subsequently access the file after seeing Brian V's note.
Mary
On 8/12/2022 7:19 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
Hi Mary: Which screen reader are you using?
Dave
On 8/11/2022 5:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote:I have a file that was sent to me as the only attachment to an email; it is a pdf, but it has no text, so I want to open it in a program that will ocr the scanned images. I'm wondering if there is a way on a one time basis to somehow get an "open with" dialogue for this file without changing my default program, which is Adobe Acrobat DC. I was hopeful that right click might do something, but it didn't. I also tried to save the file and then access it that way with my ocr program, but when I select save, the only thing is "save all" and then I'm not offered a place to either change or accept a file name. I have my folder selected, but I'm not seeing a way to actually do the save.
Mary
Dave Grossoehme
Hi Mary: Which screen reader are you using?
Dave
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On 8/11/2022 5:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have a file that was sent to me as the only attachment to an email; it is a pdf, but it has no text, so I want to open it in a program that will ocr the scanned images. I'm wondering if there is a way on a one time basis to somehow get an "open with" dialogue for this file without changing my default program, which is Adobe Acrobat DC. I was hopeful that right click might do something, but it didn't. I also tried to save the file and then access it that way with my ocr program, but when I select save, the only thing is "save all" and then I'm not offered a place to either change or accept a file name. I have my folder selected, but I'm not seeing a way to actually do the save.
Mary
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Yes then once you have it you should be able to use the context menu for Explorer to open with, rather than use Adobe.
What can sometimes upset mail clients is when the method of putting a graphic footer onto an email looks to the software like another attached file.
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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <chat@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [chat] can't access an attached pdf in thunderbird
Mary,
How are you trying to access Attachments? If you are not using ALT + M, H [Message Menu, Attachments]
Once you've done so, you should get a submenu that starts with numbered shortcuts that correspond to individual attachment file names, which are shown. I think there's a limit of something like the first 5 files if someone's attached more than that. After that section of the submenu is Open All, Save All, Detach All, Delete All.
Each of the listed numbered files will have its own submenu: Open, Save As, Detach, Delete.
I would hit ALT + M, H, then down arrow through the list of attachments (if the first one is not the file you're looking for) until you hit the one you're looking for, then hit right arrow to get its submenu, and choose the Save As option for it. You can then do a standard Save As where you specify both the folder to be used as well as a file name (if you wish to change it from what it already is named).
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~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <chat@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [chat] can't access an attached pdf in thunderbird
Mary,
How are you trying to access Attachments? If you are not using ALT + M, H [Message Menu, Attachments]
Once you've done so, you should get a submenu that starts with numbered shortcuts that correspond to individual attachment file names, which are shown. I think there's a limit of something like the first 5 files if someone's attached more than that. After that section of the submenu is Open All, Save All, Detach All, Delete All.
Each of the listed numbered files will have its own submenu: Open, Save As, Detach, Delete.
I would hit ALT + M, H, then down arrow through the list of attachments (if the first one is not the file you're looking for) until you hit the one you're looking for, then hit right arrow to get its submenu, and choose the Save As option for it. You can then do a standard Save As where you specify both the folder to be used as well as a file name (if you wish to change it from what it already is named).
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.*
~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
Gene
You can save the attachment in the following way:
New major steps start on new lines.
Open the message.
Tab, perhaps once, to a button that says something like button unchecked. It doesn't identify its purpose, evidently because of an accessibility flaw.
When you are on the button, press the space bar.
You can now move in a list but your program may be set to display the attachments not as a list but you may have to move from left to right instead of up and down. If you move up and down and there are multiple attachments, you may move to some but not all.
Try moving both ways to see how your computer displays multiple attachments. You will know if you are missing any or not landing on them all if you move in the wrong way by comparing both directions.
When you are on an attachment you want to save, open the context menu, down arrow to save as and press enter.
The save as dialog will open. You can tab around to see where the attachment will be saved, then tab back to where you usually work and save the attachment.
The field that shows where the file will be saved will say address in Windows 10 and you will hear other speech such as tool bar but after the word address you will hear a folder, such as downloads.
After you save that one, move to another one and save it.
When finished, press escape perhaps twice, once to close the list, again to close the message. I didn't pay attention to just what happens but that is my guess. Pressing escape, however many times is necessary, will close the attachment list and the message.
I said you can tab around to see where the attachment will be saved. Once you know where one will be saved, all future ones will be saved in the same place unless you change the location so checking once is all that is necessary.
Gene
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New major steps start on new lines.
Open the message.
Tab, perhaps once, to a button that says something like button unchecked. It doesn't identify its purpose, evidently because of an accessibility flaw.
When you are on the button, press the space bar.
You can now move in a list but your program may be set to display the attachments not as a list but you may have to move from left to right instead of up and down. If you move up and down and there are multiple attachments, you may move to some but not all.
Try moving both ways to see how your computer displays multiple attachments. You will know if you are missing any or not landing on them all if you move in the wrong way by comparing both directions.
When you are on an attachment you want to save, open the context menu, down arrow to save as and press enter.
The save as dialog will open. You can tab around to see where the attachment will be saved, then tab back to where you usually work and save the attachment.
The field that shows where the file will be saved will say address in Windows 10 and you will hear other speech such as tool bar but after the word address you will hear a folder, such as downloads.
After you save that one, move to another one and save it.
When finished, press escape perhaps twice, once to close the list, again to close the message. I didn't pay attention to just what happens but that is my guess. Pressing escape, however many times is necessary, will close the attachment list and the message.
I said you can tab around to see where the attachment will be saved. Once you know where one will be saved, all future ones will be saved in the same place unless you change the location so checking once is all that is necessary.
Gene
On 8/11/2022 4:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have a file that was sent to me as the only attachment to an email; it is a pdf, but it has no text, so I want to open it in a program that will ocr the scanned images. I'm wondering if there is a way on a one time basis to somehow get an "open with" dialogue for this file without changing my default program, which is Adobe Acrobat DC. I was hopeful that right click might do something, but it didn't. I also tried to save the file and then access it that way with my ocr program, but when I select save, the only thing is "save all" and then I'm not offered a place to either change or accept a file name. I have my folder selected, but I'm not seeing a way to actually do the save.
Mary
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Mary,
How are you trying to access Attachments? If you are not using ALT + M, H [Message Menu, Attachments]
Once you've done so, you should get a submenu that starts with numbered shortcuts that correspond to individual attachment file names, which are shown. I think there's a limit of something like the first 5 files if someone's attached more than that. After that section of the submenu is Open All, Save All, Detach All, Delete All.
Each of the listed numbered files will have its own submenu: Open, Save As, Detach, Delete.
I would hit ALT + M, H, then down arrow through the list of attachments (if the first one is not the file you're looking for) until you hit the one you're looking for, then hit right arrow to get its submenu, and choose the Save As option for it. You can then do a standard Save As where you specify both the folder to be used as well as a file name (if you wish to change it from what it already is named).
--
How are you trying to access Attachments? If you are not using ALT + M, H [Message Menu, Attachments]
Once you've done so, you should get a submenu that starts with numbered shortcuts that correspond to individual attachment file names, which are shown. I think there's a limit of something like the first 5 files if someone's attached more than that. After that section of the submenu is Open All, Save All, Detach All, Delete All.
Each of the listed numbered files will have its own submenu: Open, Save As, Detach, Delete.
I would hit ALT + M, H, then down arrow through the list of attachments (if the first one is not the file you're looking for) until you hit the one you're looking for, then hit right arrow to get its submenu, and choose the Save As option for it. You can then do a standard Save As where you specify both the folder to be used as well as a file name (if you wish to change it from what it already is named).
--
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
Mary Otten
I have a file that was sent to me as the only attachment to an email; it is a pdf, but it has no text, so I want to open it in a program that will ocr the scanned images. I'm wondering if there is a way on a one time basis to somehow get an "open with" dialogue for this file without changing my default program, which is Adobe Acrobat DC. I was hopeful that right click might do something, but it didn't. I also tried to save the file and then access it that way with my ocr program, but when I select save, the only thing is "save all" and then I'm not offered a place to either change or accept a file name. I have my folder selected, but I'm not seeing a way to actually do the save.
Mary
Mary