Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all together in one page. How can I get this interface?

I doubt you can and even if you can now, based on this article, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Youtube makes reversion impossible, as it did with another change in 2021.
https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/old-youtube.html

Gene

Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all together in one page. How can I get this interface?

I quite like the new interface, have for a while now. It feels just like the iOs app which I use as well.

I doubt you can and even if you can now, based on this article, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Youtube makes reversion impossible, as it did with another change in 2021.
https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/old-youtube.html

Gene

Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all together in one page. How can I get this interface?

Yeah, I actaully think the new layout is much better. Although I’m still sore at youtube for not allowing us to see dislikes, they have been making other psotive changes lately, like the introduction of handles, which make a lot of sense and which I have to applaud them for. Of course, I’m still expecting my youtube viewing to drop off rastically in January 2023 when uBlock Origin stops working properly on most chromium browsers.

There might be a temporary/placeholder url which will let you lose the old layout, but if there is, I certainly don’t know about it.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: November 6, 2022 12:14 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I quite like the new interface, have for a while now. It feels just like the iOs app which I use as well.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:54 AM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I doubt you can and even if you can now, based on this article, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Youtube makes reversion impossible, as it did with another change in 2021.
https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/old-youtube.html

Gene

On 11/6/2022 8:47 AM, farhan israk wrote:

Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all together in one page. How can I get this interface?

 

You don't need to worry about it except for the inconvenience of switching to the Brave browser if you want to use a Chrome-based browser.  Brave will continue to block ads.
https://community.brave.com/t/google-will-soon-kill-ad-blockers-with-manifest-v3-how-will-this-interact-with-brave/434461

Also, we'll see how long Chrome keeps stopping ad blockers from working.  How much market share will they lose? 

And, of course, there is Firefox, which U Block Origin (spelling) has a version of the add-on for. 

Gene

On 11/6/2022 1:05 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yeah, I actaully think the new layout is much better. Although I’m still sore at youtube for not allowing us to see dislikes, they have been making other psotive changes lately, like the introduction of handles, which make a lot of sense and which I have to applaud them for. Of course, I’m still expecting my youtube viewing to drop off rastically in January 2023 when uBlock Origin stops working properly on most chromium browsers.

There might be a temporary/placeholder url which will let you lose the old layout, but if there is, I certainly don’t know about it.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: November 6, 2022 12:14 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I quite like the new interface, have for a while now. It feels just like the iOs app which I use as well.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:54 AM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I doubt you can and even if you can now, based on this article, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Youtube makes reversion impossible, as it did with another change in 2021.
https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/old-youtube.html

Gene

On 11/6/2022 8:47 AM, farhan israk wrote:

Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all together in one page. How can I get this interface?

 

Here is a good article I found on the subject.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/chromes-new-ad-blocker-limiting-extension-platform-will-launch-in-2023/
This change evidently only affects Google Chrome. It will be
interesting to see what Edge does. That isn't discussed in this article.

Its no coincidence that Google Chrome is trying to significantly reduce
the effectiveness of ad blockers.

We'll see how much market share Google Chrome looses. They may be
making a mistake they may regret. If they lose market share, that share
probably won't return after those who leave find other browsers they
like as much even if Google stops what it is doing.

Gene
On 11/6/2022 5:47 PM, Gene wrote:

You don't need to worry about it except for the inconvenience of
switching to the Brave browser if you want to use a Chrome-based
browser. Brave will continue to block ads.
https://community.brave.com/t/google-will-soon-kill-ad-blockers-with-manifest-v3-how-will-this-interact-with-brave/434461

Also, we'll see how long Chrome keeps stopping ad blockers from
working. How much market share will they lose?

And, of course, there is Firefox, which U Block Origin (spelling) has
a version of the add-on for.

Gene

On 11/6/2022 1:05 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yeah, I actaully think the new layout is much better. Although I’m
still sore at youtube for not allowing us to see dislikes, they have
been making other psotive changes lately, like the introduction of
handles, which make a lot of sense and which I have to applaud them
for. Of course, I’m still expecting my youtube viewing to drop off
rastically in January 2023 when uBlock Origin stops working properly
on most chromium browsers.

There might be a temporary/placeholder url which will let you lose
the old layout, but if there is, I certainly don’t know about it.

*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sarah
k Alawami
*Sent:* November 6, 2022 12:14 PM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

I quite like the new interface, have for a while now. It feels just
like the iOs app which I use as well.

*From:*chat@nvda.groups.io <mailto:chat@nvda.groups.io>
<chat@nvda.groups.io <mailto:chat@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:54 AM
*To:* chat@nvda.groups.io <mailto:chat@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

I doubt you can and even if you can now, based on this article, I
wouldn't be at all surprised if Youtube makes reversion impossible,
as it did with another change in 2021.
https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/old-youtube.html

Gene

On 11/6/2022 8:47 AM, farhan israk wrote:

Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate
tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this
interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could
access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all
together in one page. How can I get this interface?

Yes it is hard for a company who relies on adds to support ad blockers. I do see their point, but most of our points also are that the advertising space is now so crowded that if all adds were aloud, then nobody would use the Internet. I was on a local social media site called Next door yesterday, and their script took ages to load and run on any browser, having just a cursory look at it, it first goes to cloudflare then to a myriad number of advertising ip address harvesters before it allows the page to move on.  I do feel that the space is now so crowded that much like spam, drastic measures need to be employed to keep the internet usable.
Brian

Here is a good article I found on the subject. 
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/chromes-new-ad-blocker-limiting-extension-platform-will-launch-in-2023/
This change evidently only affects Google Chrome.  It will be interesting to see what Edge does.  That isn't discussed in this article. 

Its no coincidence that Google Chrome is trying to significantly reduce the effectiveness of ad blockers. 

We'll see how much market share Google Chrome looses.  They may be making a mistake they may regret.  If they lose market share, that share probably won't return after those who leave find other browsers they like as much even if Google stops what it is doing.

Gene

You don't need to worry about it except for the inconvenience of switching to the Brave browser if you want to use a Chrome-based browser.  Brave will continue to block ads.
https://community.brave.com/t/google-will-soon-kill-ad-blockers-with-manifest-v3-how-will-this-interact-with-brave/434461

Also, we'll see how long Chrome keeps stopping ad blockers from working.  How much market share will they lose? 

And, of course, there is Firefox, which U Block Origin (spelling) has a version of the add-on for. 

Gene

On 11/6/2022 1:05 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yeah, I actaully think the new layout is much better. Although I’m still sore at youtube for not allowing us to see dislikes, they have been making other psotive changes lately, like the introduction of handles, which make a lot of sense and which I have to applaud them for. Of course, I’m still expecting my youtube viewing to drop off rastically in January 2023 when uBlock Origin stops working properly on most chromium browsers.

There might be a temporary/placeholder url which will let you lose the old layout, but if there is, I certainly don’t know about it.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: November 6, 2022 12:14 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I quite like the new interface, have for a while now. It feels just like the iOs app which I use as well.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:54 AM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I doubt you can and even if you can now, based on this article, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Youtube makes reversion impossible, as it did with another change in 2021.
https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/old-youtube.html

Gene

On 11/6/2022 8:47 AM, farhan israk wrote:

Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all together in one page. How can I get this interface?

 

 

We will see. From what i have read and heard in a couple of videos, it seems likely to me taht other Chromium-based browsers will also stop support for Manifest 3, which means they will circumvent ad blockers in teh samd way that Chrome will. As for Brave, I don’t know. I’ve thought about starting to use it and I still may. Something about that model they have with “eventually” instigating a very specific set of targeted ads seems a little suspicious to me, but I haven’t yet decided if I care enough. After all, i do still use chrome, google’s money-making baby. My internet experience would certainly be a lot less pleasant if I didn’t use an ad blocker. Yes, i also use firefox, but I find it to run pretty slow on my system, and youtube even “stutters” and lags in a way that it doesn’t with chrome. So again we’ll see waht happens next year, I suppose.

 

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: November 6, 2022 07:17 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

Here is a good article I found on the subject. 
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/chromes-new-ad-blocker-limiting-extension-platform-will-launch-in-2023/
This change evidently only affects Google Chrome.  It will be interesting to see what Edge does.  That isn't discussed in this article. 

Its no coincidence that Google Chrome is trying to significantly reduce the effectiveness of ad blockers. 

We'll see how much market share Google Chrome looses.  They may be making a mistake they may regret.  If they lose market share, that share probably won't return after those who leave find other browsers they like as much even if Google stops what it is doing.

Gene

On 11/6/2022 5:47 PM, Gene wrote:

You don't need to worry about it except for the inconvenience of switching to the Brave browser if you want to use a Chrome-based browser.  Brave will continue to block ads.
https://community.brave.com/t/google-will-soon-kill-ad-blockers-with-manifest-v3-how-will-this-interact-with-brave/434461

Also, we'll see how long Chrome keeps stopping ad blockers from working.  How much market share will they lose? 

And, of course, there is Firefox, which U Block Origin (spelling) has a version of the add-on for. 

Gene

On 11/6/2022 1:05 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yeah, I actaully think the new layout is much better. Although I’m still sore at youtube for not allowing us to see dislikes, they have been making other psotive changes lately, like the introduction of handles, which make a lot of sense and which I have to applaud them for. Of course, I’m still expecting my youtube viewing to drop off rastically in January 2023 when uBlock Origin stops working properly on most chromium browsers.

There might be a temporary/placeholder url which will let you lose the old layout, but if there is, I certainly don’t know about it.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: November 6, 2022 12:14 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I quite like the new interface, have for a while now. It feels just like the iOs app which I use as well.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:54 AM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I doubt you can and even if you can now, based on this article, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Youtube makes reversion impossible, as it did with another change in 2021.
https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/old-youtube.html

Gene

On 11/6/2022 8:47 AM, farhan israk wrote:

Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all together in one page. How can I get this interface?

 

 

 

We don't know if that is your machine or a general problem. I've seen Next Door discussed by different people on different lists and I don't recall hearing such a complaint. Scripts do make a lot of sites take longer to load but my impression is that your description is not at all typical.

Gene

On 11/7/2022 4:38 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

Yes it is hard for a company who relies on adds to support ad blockers. I do see their point, but most of our points also are that the advertising space is now so crowded that if all adds were aloud, then nobody would use the Internet. I was on a local social media site called Next door yesterday, and their script took ages to load and run on any browser, having just a cursory look at it, it first goes to cloudflare then to a myriad number of advertising ip address harvesters before it allows the page to move on. I do feel that the space is now so crowded that much like spam, drastic measures need to be employed to keep the internet usable.
Brian

This sounds like another case of, if things work why oh why do they want to change it?
Brian

Well its not a slow machine. It could of course just be that the network delays etc are mounting up as things get pinged during its running. Sometimes its fine, other times not, Edge seems to be the fastest browser, but sometimes dumps you in an odd place in a page. The site is pretty weird though, lack of headers and some addresses attempt to launch IE for some odd reason.
Brian

As to ad blockers, I have very little doubt that the very clever developers of same will adjust, as needed, to changes intended to stymie them.

They've been doing so for a very, very long time now.  As the old saying goes (and, cat lovers, it's not literal):  There's more than one way to skin a cat!
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers

Brave, in the link I provided specifically says they stop ads using a different system that doesn't rely on the manifest that Chrome is going to change. 

As far as when Chrome users will have the new system implemented, I'm not sure but I saw, perhaps in the same discussion I linked to, it stated that the change will start to be used in beta or I think even earlier releases starting next year, if I recall correctly.  So it sounds as though users of production releases won't have this change until later in the year. 

I'm not sure about that, but that's what it sounds like. 

Gene
On 11/7/2022 7:25 AM, JM Casey wrote:

We will see. From what i have read and heard in a couple of videos, it seems likely to me taht other Chromium-based browsers will also stop support for Manifest 3, which means they will circumvent ad blockers in teh samd way that Chrome will. As for Brave, I don’t know. I’ve thought about starting to use it and I still may. Something about that model they have with “eventually” instigating a very specific set of targeted ads seems a little suspicious to me, but I haven’t yet decided if I care enough. After all, i do still use chrome, google’s money-making baby. My internet experience would certainly be a lot less pleasant if I didn’t use an ad blocker. Yes, i also use firefox, but I find it to run pretty slow on my system, and youtube even “stutters” and lags in a way that it doesn’t with chrome. So again we’ll see waht happens next year, I suppose.

 

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: November 6, 2022 07:17 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

Here is a good article I found on the subject. 
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/chromes-new-ad-blocker-limiting-extension-platform-will-launch-in-2023/
This change evidently only affects Google Chrome.  It will be interesting to see what Edge does.  That isn't discussed in this article. 

Its no coincidence that Google Chrome is trying to significantly reduce the effectiveness of ad blockers. 

We'll see how much market share Google Chrome looses.  They may be making a mistake they may regret.  If they lose market share, that share probably won't return after those who leave find other browsers they like as much even if Google stops what it is doing.

Gene

On 11/6/2022 5:47 PM, Gene wrote:

You don't need to worry about it except for the inconvenience of switching to the Brave browser if you want to use a Chrome-based browser.  Brave will continue to block ads.
https://community.brave.com/t/google-will-soon-kill-ad-blockers-with-manifest-v3-how-will-this-interact-with-brave/434461

Also, we'll see how long Chrome keeps stopping ad blockers from working.  How much market share will they lose? 

And, of course, there is Firefox, which U Block Origin (spelling) has a version of the add-on for. 

Gene

On 11/6/2022 1:05 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yeah, I actaully think the new layout is much better. Although I’m still sore at youtube for not allowing us to see dislikes, they have been making other psotive changes lately, like the introduction of handles, which make a lot of sense and which I have to applaud them for. Of course, I’m still expecting my youtube viewing to drop off rastically in January 2023 when uBlock Origin stops working properly on most chromium browsers.

There might be a temporary/placeholder url which will let you lose the old layout, but if there is, I certainly don’t know about it.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: November 6, 2022 12:14 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I quite like the new interface, have for a while now. It feels just like the iOs app which I use as well.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:54 AM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I doubt you can and even if you can now, based on this article, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Youtube makes reversion impossible, as it did with another change in 2021.
https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/old-youtube.html

Gene

On 11/6/2022 8:47 AM, farhan israk wrote:

Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all together in one page. How can I get this interface?

 

 

 

The “big date” I have read so far is January 2023.

 

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: November 7, 2022 04:14 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

Brave, in the link I provided specifically says they stop ads using a different system that doesn't rely on the manifest that Chrome is going to change. 

As far as when Chrome users will have the new system implemented, I'm not sure but I saw, perhaps in the same discussion I linked to, it stated that the change will start to be used in beta or I think even earlier releases starting next year, if I recall correctly.  So it sounds as though users of production releases won't have this change until later in the year. 

I'm not sure about that, but that's what it sounds like. 

Gene
On 11/7/2022 7:25 AM, JM Casey wrote:

We will see. From what i have read and heard in a couple of videos, it seems likely to me taht other Chromium-based browsers will also stop support for Manifest 3, which means they will circumvent ad blockers in teh samd way that Chrome will. As for Brave, I don’t know. I’ve thought about starting to use it and I still may. Something about that model they have with “eventually” instigating a very specific set of targeted ads seems a little suspicious to me, but I haven’t yet decided if I care enough. After all, i do still use chrome, google’s money-making baby. My internet experience would certainly be a lot less pleasant if I didn’t use an ad blocker. Yes, i also use firefox, but I find it to run pretty slow on my system, and youtube even “stutters” and lags in a way that it doesn’t with chrome. So again we’ll see waht happens next year, I suppose.

 

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: November 6, 2022 07:17 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

Here is a good article I found on the subject. 
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/chromes-new-ad-blocker-limiting-extension-platform-will-launch-in-2023/
This change evidently only affects Google Chrome.  It will be interesting to see what Edge does.  That isn't discussed in this article. 

Its no coincidence that Google Chrome is trying to significantly reduce the effectiveness of ad blockers. 

We'll see how much market share Google Chrome looses.  They may be making a mistake they may regret.  If they lose market share, that share probably won't return after those who leave find other browsers they like as much even if Google stops what it is doing.

Gene

On 11/6/2022 5:47 PM, Gene wrote:

You don't need to worry about it except for the inconvenience of switching to the Brave browser if you want to use a Chrome-based browser.  Brave will continue to block ads.
https://community.brave.com/t/google-will-soon-kill-ad-blockers-with-manifest-v3-how-will-this-interact-with-brave/434461

Also, we'll see how long Chrome keeps stopping ad blockers from working.  How much market share will they lose? 

And, of course, there is Firefox, which U Block Origin (spelling) has a version of the add-on for. 

Gene

On 11/6/2022 1:05 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yeah, I actaully think the new layout is much better. Although I’m still sore at youtube for not allowing us to see dislikes, they have been making other psotive changes lately, like the introduction of handles, which make a lot of sense and which I have to applaud them for. Of course, I’m still expecting my youtube viewing to drop off rastically in January 2023 when uBlock Origin stops working properly on most chromium browsers.

There might be a temporary/placeholder url which will let you lose the old layout, but if there is, I certainly don’t know about it.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: November 6, 2022 12:14 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I quite like the new interface, have for a while now. It feels just like the iOs app which I use as well.

 

From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:54 AM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Youtube Old Layout

 

I doubt you can and even if you can now, based on this article, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Youtube makes reversion impossible, as it did with another change in 2021.
https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/old-youtube.html

Gene

On 11/6/2022 8:47 AM, farhan israk wrote:

Hello everyone,

Youtube has changed the interface. They have introduced separate tabs for video, shorts and live. However, I do not like this interface. I want to experience the old layout where we could access all the videos including videos, shorts and live all together in one page. How can I get this interface?