Moving data between browsers


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Hi, I'm looking for a way to transfer all my passwords and bookmarks from Waterfox, to Firefox, due to the Waterfox folk having broken something in their latest release that can crash both Waterfox and nvda apparently randomly.
As both are based on Mozilla code, I though it might be as simple as moving a profile file or something.
Brian

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Bookmarks are a cinch just using the export feature in Waterfox and import feature in Firefox Bookmarks Manager.

Stored userids and passwords are another issue altogether, and I never use browser password management.  Have a look at the detailed answer here: https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/ku9fkv/export_passwords/ to see if it still works.

Otherwise, slog through the search results from: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=waterfox+export+password 
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There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers


Gene
 

I don't know if it's true anymore but years ago, I read that using password savers, I don't know the correct term, in browsers was a security hazard. 

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:17 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Bookmarks are a cinch just using the export feature in Waterfox and import feature in Firefox Bookmarks Manager.

Stored userids and passwords are another issue altogether, and I never use browser password management.  Have a look at the detailed answer here: https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/ku9fkv/export_passwords/ to see if it still works.

Otherwise, slog through the search results from: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=waterfox+export+password 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers



 

Gene,

That's a battle that will never be happily settled.  As far as I'm concerned, the measures taken by the password managers in browsers are quite sufficient, but whether or not the end user does their part is questionable.  I've seen plenty where the end user did not put a password requirement on opening the password manager, and if you don't bother to do that, and your computer is on constantly and in a household with multiple people (or visitors) anyone can waltz right up and open it.

I personally favor dedicated password managers, which require the use of a master password to access the vault, coupled with The Portmanteau Method of Creating Passwords, which makes the passwords easy for the individual to remember but next to impossible for any random stranger (and, often, family members, too) to crack.
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There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers


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I think it much depends on how they are protected. There is indeed a piece of software called password fox that seems to find most of them quite easily. So that might be the way to go. I think the main bad habit a lot of us have is using similar passwords for many sites, and the unfortunately convoluted ways we now need to do to alter them and use a password manager. I'm not totally convinced those are the way to go either, since you yourself do not then know the passwords and when you want to log in from somebody else's computer you are stuffed.
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Subject: Re: [chat] Moving data between browsers


I don't know if it's true anymore but years ago, I read that using
password savers, I don't know the correct term, in browsers was a
security hazard.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:17 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Bookmarks are a cinch just using the export feature in Waterfox and
import feature in Firefox Bookmarks Manager.

Stored userids and passwords are another issue altogether, and I never
use browser password management. Have a look at the detailed answer
here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/ku9fkv/export_passwords/ to
see if it still works.

Otherwise, slog through the search results from:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=waterfox+export+password
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Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045

*There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's
life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish
fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its
unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially
crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of
course, involves orcs. *

~ John Rogers






 

There's a reason I keep suggesting using The Portmanteau Method of Creating Passwords.

It allows you to create very strong passwords that do vary by site, but are easy to reconstruct (by you) if you're somewhere other than your own machine and away from you password manager.  I keep all my portmanteau passwords in a password manager because no one's memory is perfect, but I do not need to refer to the password manager except every once in a great while, usually because I've forgotten exactly what I used for the site specific element in the portmanteau.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers


Pamela Dominguez
 

Okay, what is this port manto method?  Pam.

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 11:20 AM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Moving data between browsers

 

There's a reason I keep suggesting using The Portmanteau Method of Creating Passwords.

It allows you to create very strong passwords that do vary by site, but are easy to reconstruct (by you) if you're somewhere other than your own machine and away from you password manager.  I keep all my portmanteau passwords in a password manager because no one's memory is perfect, but I do not need to refer to the password manager except every once in a great while, usually because I've forgotten exactly what I used for the site specific element in the portmanteau.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers

 


 

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Okay, what is this port manto method? 
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Activate the link I've now given, twice, to download the tutorial on doing so.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers


Mary Otten
 

If you click the link in Brian's message, you'll get a nice clear explanation in docx format of this method of password construction.


Mary


On 11/21/2022 9:27 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Okay, what is this port manto method? 
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Activate the link I've now given, twice, to download the tutorial on doing so.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers


Pamela Dominguez
 

I don’t keep your messages, and usually don’t open them, because of the way you chop them up.  Pam.

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 12:27 PM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [chat] Moving data between browsers

 

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

Okay, what is this port manto method? 

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Activate the link I've now given, twice, to download the tutorial on doing so.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers

 


 

Pam,

Then, m'dear, that really is your problem.  I have given that link, twice, in this topic.  It's also in the same topic on the archive, which for this group is here: https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat/topics 

I am not here to cater to your personal preferences.  You are free to ignore my messages, but don't have the temerity to ask for repeats afterward.  Either read them, or don't.  And if you need something later then you can consult the archive just like all other members can.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    ~ John Rogers