can't install the 7-zip program
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Gene
If you zip mp3 content, it should be because you want to combine more than one file into a single archive. You might want to do this when sharing a number of individual mp3 files with someone. You might zip all the files, then send them to a sharing site and the person would download one file.
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Or you might create a tutorial and want to have many mp3 files in one archive. Some people zip individual mp3 files. There is no benefit in doing this, the amount of space saved is too small to matter and it just makes more work for the recipient to unzip a single file. Zip is designed to make documents a lot smaller but mp3 files are already compressed. Zip isn't designed to compress audio in general. Gene On 1/28/2023 5:54 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
One thing I noticed with mp3 content, is there is little saving in space if any, by zipping it up. |
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One thing I noticed with mp3 content, is there is little saving in space if any, by zipping it up.
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Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@...> To: <chat@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program Using what method? Either way, the archive .zip will be in the folder where you create it. So, you talk of zipping an album – if you’re, say, in your music folder, and you have a folder inside that that contains the album…zip up that folder, and the zip file will be in your music folder, unless you use an archiver and set it to store archives in a different location, which I’m pretty surey ou can do, but isn’t the default behaviour. From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: January 26, 2023 12:53 PM To: chat@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program Hi, How do I find the archived folder once I’ve added the album to it? Rosemarie Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: JM Casey <mailto:jmcasey@...> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 9:41 AM To: chat@nvda.groups.io <mailto:chat@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program It’s not necessary to have it, but having an archiver programme is still useful and gives you features that are not native to windows. Try going to the 7zip site instead of using ninnite. Get it from the source and install it manually. Choose 64 or 32 bit version depending on your preference and needs. From: chat@nvda.groups.io <mailto:chat@nvda.groups.io> <chat@nvda.groups.io <mailto:chat@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: January 26, 2023 12:39 PM To: chat@nvda.groups.io <mailto:chat@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program With windows 11, it's not necessary to havve 7zip. Just highlight the files you want in your archive and open the context menu and choose add to archive. Howard On 1/26/2023 11:25 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: Hi, everyone, Last night I tried to install the 7-zip program from the ninite site but kept getting a message that the installation failed. I wanted to zip up an album to share with a music list I’m on. Does it no longer work in windows 11? Just wondering. Thanks for your help. Rosemarie Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows -- Manuals out, after all possible keystrokes have failed. |
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Brian's Mail list account
Unless they have changed it they have a kind of portable version themselves that all you do is put a shortcut for it, however doing it this way will of course not put the menu items on the various context menus that are very handy. It could be that there is something different about adding these options in Windows 11.
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From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@...> To: <chat@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program It’s not necessary to have it, but having an archiver programme is still useful and gives you features that are not native to windows. Try going to the 7zip site instead of using ninnite. Get it from the source and install it manually. Choose 64 or 32 bit version depending on your preference and needs. From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: January 26, 2023 12:39 PM To: chat@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program With windows 11, it's not necessary to havve 7zip. Just highlight the files you want in your archive and open the context menu and choose add to archive. Howard On 1/26/2023 11:25 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: Hi, everyone, Last night I tried to install the 7-zip program from the ninite site but kept getting a message that the installation failed. I wanted to zip up an album to share with a music list I’m on. Does it no longer work in windows 11? Just wondering. Thanks for your help. Rosemarie Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows -- Manuals out, after all possible keystrokes have failed. |
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Dave Grossoehme
When you go to download them program, you will receive a message telling you that this is not a windows program. Just arrow down a couple of times and you will find download anyway. Dave
On 1/26/2023 1:11 PM, Shaun Everiss
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It also depends on what you are used to.
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Yes its nice for viewing zips as folders which is fine. However I did come from a time where you didn't have that feature. Initially I used winrar then didn't care for it then used winzip. Then I got tired of the registration so cracked it. Then I got 7zip and it was faster so I jumped ship. On 27/01/2023, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Gene
You may get other answers and perhaps this message will stimulate
more. Since you have gotten none yet, I'm answering.
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I seldom use 7zip and I use the portable version. It doesn't place items in the context menu. If I used it more, I might install it but for me, this is a very minor inconvenience. In your case, you should see items in the context menu when you are on a rar file. Open the context menu, and look for relevant items. Do you see items like extract here, extract and extract to? If not, do you see a 7zip item in the context menu? If so, pressing enter on it should show you the items I've mentioned. Gene On 1/26/2023 4:37 PM, Pamela Dominguez
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On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 05:37 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
I got it because the windows unzip utility wouldn’t unzip rar files.- And you need it if someone's sending RAR files, which is a compression format more commonly originating outside of the Windows environment. As with all things, you use the tool necessary to the task, but the task that was at play here was creating (or unzipping/uncompressing) ZIP format archives, and Windows can do that natively. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed) |
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Pamela Dominguez
Okay, but suppose you want to unzip them? I have never used the archive on 7zip. I got it because the windows unzip utility wouldn’t unzip rar files. Pam.
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From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 12:38 PM To: chat@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program
With windows 11, it's not necessary to havve 7zip. Just highlight the files you want in your archive and open the context menu and choose add to archive.
Howard
On 1/26/2023 11:25 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
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I agree jean. Of course if all you handle are zips thats fine. I like the 7z interface and handle everything from zips to rar archives. My geek cluub and hacker mates use 7zip because its a little better compression wize than windows zip and can be controled and we deal exclusively with the 7z format. The only time we deal with zips is for public use for standard users but yeah the other thing is that 7zip is shell dependant so if you need it. If you don't then thats fine. Its probably a geek thing but I do like it.
On 27/01/2023 8:10 am, Brian Vogel
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Howard Traxler
If you are using file explorer (I think it might be called) to find and select the files you want to include in the archive, the archive will normally be found at the bottom of that folder.
Howard On 1/26/2023 11:52 AM, Rosemarie
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Gene,
What you find "easiest to handle" and what someone else might find easiest to handle need not be the same. This is not difficult to understand and accept. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed) |
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Gene
You can do a lot more in 7z, but the original message said that 7z
is easier to handle and I disagree. What could be more simple than
a utility with one zipping action, compress to zip folder.
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Gene On 1/26/2023 12:44 PM, Brian Vogel
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JM Casey
Yeah, Winget is awesome. There’s a lot of software in that microsoft repository. And you can use it to update store apps too I believe.
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: January 26, 2023 1:42 PM To: chat@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program
7-Zip definitely works under Windows 11. Even more specific than what Shaun offered, the direct download link for the latest version of 7-Zip 64-bit (which is what the vast majority would use) is: https://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/files/latest/download Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed) |
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On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 01:35 PM, Gene wrote:
No, it isn't easier to handle.- That's really a matter of personal opinion. I've used both, but I like the control I get via 7-Zip, and its user interface, better than the native Windows utility. Chacun à son goût. --Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed) |
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7-Zip definitely works under Windows 11. Even more specific than what Shaun offered, the direct download link for the latest version of 7-Zip 64-bit (which is what the vast majority would use) is: https://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/files/latest/download
It takes a few seconds (there is a countdown timer) after activating the link before the save dialog comes up for you to choose where to save the installer. I always get programs from the original source. And now that Windows includes the winget command you can check virtually anything you have on your system already for updates and have them installed if such exist. I just paste the following into a command prompt or PowerShell session and, for the most part, it does everything itself: winget upgrade --all --include-unknown --accept-source-agreements There are the occasional burps (and, oddly, with some Microsoft stuff) but if the makers have given MS the info needed to check, it checks for newer versions, attempts to download those, and installs them when it can snag them. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) Journalism 101: If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. It’s your job to look out the f**king window and find out which is true. ~ Jonathan Foster (attributed) |
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Gene
No, it isn't easier to handle. I've used both programs and for
zipping files, the Windows utility is as easy as 7zip.
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You can compress in many more formats using 7zip and you can unzip rar files, but most files you run across that are compressed are zip. Gene On 1/26/2023 12:11 PM, Shaun Everiss
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Yeah windows can zip but 7z is a lot easier to handle. You shouldn't need ninite for 7zip, www.sf.net/projects/sevenzip/files. Click 7zip and then the latest version. Install the appropriate version x64 should be what you go for. The last version is 22.01. You will have to run the thing as admin in order to set options. I don't use it for much but it helps me with rar and other files. It can also access hidden files which can be usefull. Its also dangerous if you have others access to it because it can access hidden files and protected files but on the other hand if you need to kill old data like windows installs and temp files and know what you are at then its fine. Its easier than buggering about with folder options and such especially if things half bust like they have been with me at a time. 7zip is easier than doodling with that ,, run in admin and you can do simple opps. I also like the 7z format.
On 27/01/2023 6:41 am, JM Casey wrote:
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Gene
All the files should be in the same folder. Select the files you
want to zip. Then open the context menu.
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Find send to and press enter. IN the submenu that opens, find compressed zip folder and press enter. A dialog will open telling you that the file is being zipped. When it closes, if you have the same experience as I do, you are at the zip file but you have to press escape to be in the list of files in the folder and to be able to move around. The zip file will be in the same folder as the original files. It will have the same name as one of the files that were zipped. Change the zip filename to whatever you want. Gene On 1/26/2023 11:37 AM, Rosemarie
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JM Casey
Using what method? Either way, the archive .zip will be in the folder where you create it. So, you talk of zipping an album – if you’re, say, in your music folder, and you have a folder inside that that contains the album…zip up that folder, and the zip file will be in your music folder, unless you use an archiver and set it to store archives in a different location, which I’m pretty surey ou can do, but isn’t the default behaviour.
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: January 26, 2023 12:53 PM To: chat@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program
Hi,
How do I find the archived folder once I’ve added the album to it?
Rosemarie
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From: JM Casey
It’s not necessary to have it, but having an archiver programme is still useful and gives you features that are not native to windows. Try going to the 7zip site instead of using ninnite. Get it from the source and install it manually. Choose 64 or 32 bit version depending on your preference and needs.
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
With windows 11, it's not necessary to havve 7zip. Just highlight the files you want in your archive and open the context menu and choose add to archive.
Howard
On 1/26/2023 11:25 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
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Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi,
How do I find the archived folder once I’ve added the album to it?
Rosemarie
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From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 9:41 AM To: chat@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [chat] can't install the 7-zip program
It’s not necessary to have it, but having an archiver programme is still useful and gives you features that are not native to windows. Try going to the 7zip site instead of using ninnite. Get it from the source and install it manually. Choose 64 or 32 bit version depending on your preference and needs.
From: chat@nvda.groups.io <chat@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
With windows 11, it's not necessary to havve 7zip. Just highlight the files you want in your archive and open the context menu and choose add to archive.
Howard
On 1/26/2023 11:25 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
-- Manuals out, after all possible keystrokes have failed.
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