Couple of items about github reports


Brian's Mail list account
 

Firstly, can somebody tell me how you know if you have uploaded a file or not? It does not seem obvious to me. You take browse, you highlight the file, than go to the open button and press it and nothing appears to alter or no button saying start the upload or upload completed seems to appear. I've tried waterfox and firefox.



Second, after my posting the template and maybe the file.. grin, I got an email saying something like you logged in, we did not recognise your location, if this is you take no action. Is this normal, and no I've not moved but my isp does change the IP address quite often to balance load.
Brian

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Gene
 

I just tried uploading a file.  After I pressed the open button, I tried downarrowing and heard a message that my file was uploading.  Down arrowing might have had nothing to do with the message.  I might have heard it if I did nothing. 
I don't know how you looked at the page but I quickly moved line by line from the top of the page after a moment when I thought my file had probably finished downloading and I found a line somewhere that says this:
[JAWS Keystrokes.pdf](https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/files/9139172/JAWS.Keystrokes.pdf)
I looked in that way because you said you found nothing.  I don't recall if I first tried to move around near where I was but if you don't know what or where you are looking for something and think there is a reasonable chance it should be on the page, check the whole page.

Now, my question is how to delete the file since it is just a test.

Gene

On 7/19/2022 3:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

Firstly, can somebody tell me how you know if you have uploaded a file or not? It does not seem obvious to me. You take browse, you highlight the file, than go to the open button and press it and nothing appears to alter or  no button saying start the upload or upload completed seems to appear. I've tried waterfox and firefox.



Second, after my posting the template and maybe the file.. grin, I got an email saying  something like you logged in, we did not recognise your location, if this is you take no action. Is this normal, and  no I've not moved but my isp does change the IP address quite often to balance load.
Brian



Gene
 

I checked and I don't have any repositories so I can't delete the file in that way.  I don't think anyone will see it since I hadn't created an issue when I uploaded it.  I'd like to delete it because its just sitting there taking space but I'm not sure it is possible.

Gene
On 7/19/2022 3:59 AM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I just tried uploading a file.  After I pressed the open button, I tried downarrowing and heard a message that my file was uploading.  Down arrowing might have had nothing to do with the message.  I might have heard it if I did nothing. 
I don't know how you looked at the page but I quickly moved line by line from the top of the page after a moment when I thought my file had probably finished downloading and I found a line somewhere that says this:
[JAWS Keystrokes.pdf](https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/files/9139172/JAWS.Keystrokes.pdf)
I looked in that way because you said you found nothing.  I don't recall if I first tried to move around near where I was but if you don't know what or where you are looking for something and think there is a reasonable chance it should be on the page, check the whole page.

Now, my question is how to delete the file since it is just a test.

Gene

On 7/19/2022 3:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Firstly, can somebody tell me how you know if you have uploaded a file or not? It does not seem obvious to me. You take browse, you highlight the file, than go to the open button and press it and nothing appears to alter or  no button saying start the upload or upload completed seems to appear. I've tried waterfox and firefox.



Second, after my posting the template and maybe the file.. grin, I got an email saying  something like you logged in, we did not recognise your location, if this is you take no action. Is this normal, and  no I've not moved but my isp does change the IP address quite often to balance load.
Brian




Sarah k Alawami
 

It's in markdown so the easy thing is to go to the top of the edit field
then look for [filename[](http://link.to.path) Take care and hope that
helps.

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Subject: [chat] Couple of items about github reports

Firstly, can somebody tell me how you know if you have uploaded a file or
not? It does not seem obvious to me. You take browse, you highlight the
file, than go to the open button and press it and nothing appears to alter
or no button saying start the upload or upload completed seems to appear.
I've tried waterfox and firefox.



Second, after my posting the template and maybe the file.. grin, I got an
email saying something like you logged in, we did not recognise your
location, if this is you take no action. Is this normal, and no I've not
moved but my isp does change the IP address quite often to balance load.
Brian

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Brian's Mail list account
 

No its very unsatisfactory. I mean one finds, on many many web sites hat the result of an upload displays writhing a few lines of the actual add files or browse buttons. Github seems to be basically, out of step. I upload a lot of files for our talking newspaper every week and in no case have I seen anything that does not pop up a status bar or put the file uploaded near the control it was uploaded with.

Brian

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Subject: Re: [chat] Couple of items about github reports


I checked and I don't have any repositories so I can't delete the file
in that way. I don't think anyone will see it since I hadn't created an
issue when I uploaded it. I'd like to delete it because its just
sitting there taking space but I'm not sure it is possible.

Gene
On 7/19/2022 3:59 AM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I just tried uploading a file. After I pressed the open button, I
tried downarrowing and heard a message that my file was uploading.
Down arrowing might have had nothing to do with the message. I might
have heard it if I did nothing.
I don't know how you looked at the page but I quickly moved line by
line from the top of the page after a moment when I thought my file
had probably finished downloading and I found a line somewhere that
says this:
[JAWS
Keystrokes.pdf](https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/files/9139172/JAWS.Keystrokes.pdf)
I looked in that way because you said you found nothing. I don't
recall if I first tried to move around near where I was but if you
don't know what or where you are looking for something and think there
is a reasonable chance it should be on the page, check the whole page.

Now, my question is how to delete the file since it is just a test.

Gene

On 7/19/2022 3:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Firstly, can somebody tell me how you know if you have uploaded a
file or not? It does not seem obvious to me. You take browse, you
highlight the file, than go to the open button and press it and
nothing appears to alter or no button saying start the upload or
upload completed seems to appear. I've tried waterfox and firefox.



Second, after my posting the template and maybe the file.. grin, I
got an email saying something like you logged in, we did not
recognise your location, if this is you take no action. Is this
normal, and no I've not moved but my isp does change the IP address
quite often to balance load.
Brian





Brian's Mail list account
 

Why? Surely markdown is only relevant for the text you input and its formatting?
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [chat] Couple of items about github reports


It's in markdown so the easy thing is to go to the top of the edit field
then look for [filename[](http://link.to.path) Take care and hope that
helps.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 1:35 AM
To: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [chat] Couple of items about github reports

Firstly, can somebody tell me how you know if you have uploaded a file or
not? It does not seem obvious to me. You take browse, you highlight the
file, than go to the open button and press it and nothing appears to alter
or no button saying start the upload or upload completed seems to appear.
I've tried waterfox and firefox.



Second, after my posting the template and maybe the file.. grin, I got an
email saying something like you logged in, we did not recognise your
location, if this is you take no action. Is this normal, and no I've not
moved but my isp does change the IP address quite often to balance load.
Brian

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Gene
 

It is important to look at a page and, if necessary, carefully, skimming line by line, if you take an action that might result in something happening and the user being notified on the page, but you don't see anything.  A sighted person would see what is being displayed, such as the file name and a bit of text  about it easily on this page, I assume.  It may be in a different color or offset in some way.  It is very important not to equate accessibility with usability or convenience. 

Gene

On 7/20/2022 3:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

No its very unsatisfactory. I mean one finds, on many many web sites hat the result of an upload displays writhing a few lines of the actual add files or browse buttons. Github seems to be basically, out of step. I upload a lot of files for our talking newspaper every week and in no case have I seen anything that does not pop up a  status bar or put the file uploaded near the control it was uploaded with.

Brian



Luke Davis
 

On Jul 20, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

Why? Surely markdown is only relevant for the text you input and its formatting?
The below applies to uploading files to GitHub comments only, such as the comment you are posting when you create or reply to an issue.

When you press the "browse" button to attach a file to the comment, and press "open" after entering/choosing the file, two things happen:

1. The file is uploaded to a location on GitHub that makes the file publicly available via some randomized long URL, which ends in an escaped version of the file name.

2. In order to actually associate the file with the comment, a line of Markdown is inserted to the comment field, probably wherever you last had your focus mode cursor, which references the file. That is how the comment knows you want to link to that file.

The file is not attached to the form itself in any way, as if you uploaded the file to that comment form. You are uploading the file to GitHub in general, and then dropping a link to it in the comment you are posting.

If you return to the edit field for the comment after you upload/open the file, you will find a Markdown link line as Sarah pointed out. It looks like this:

[freeform text that is the file name](actual_GitHub_URL)

The part in the square brackets, is what is shown to readers of your comment. you can change that however you like, for example if you want to make it look like part of a sentence. The part in the round brackets (parenthesis), is the URL itself, to the public GitHub file server where they stuck your file.

You can take that line and move it to anywhere in your post, just like any other text. You can copy and paste it, etc. It is just Markdown text, that generates an HTML link to the file when you ultimately post your comment.

So, you could attach a file called "something.zip". you'll get a line like this:

[something.zip](https://githubuserdata.com/blah/blah123/something.zip)

You can select and cut that line, and move it to somewhere other in your text, like so:

The files I wanted to show you can be [downloaded here](https://githubuserdata.com/blah/blah123/something.zip), and I would appreciate you reviewing them.

Or, of course, you can leave it where it first appeared in the comment.

As to Gene's side question of what happens when you upload a file, but then don't post the comment: I have no idea. It may eventually expire if it remains
unreferenced, but I have never tried testing it.

HTH

Luke