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How to browse each message in the thread in the order in which it was created
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Rowen Cary
Hi all, In groups.io I remember a long time ago when opening each topic, you can directly press the letter S to find the first message which is the message of the person who created this topic. However, I now open the topic and want to see the first message only by pressing ctrl+End and then pressing Shift+S . Can I adjust this reading style? Thanks |
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The only two orders available in the Groups.io web interface for topics is either "Oldest to newest" (the default) or "Newest to oldest" which I use.
When you have any topic open, search on Date, and there is a toggle for the sort order (and this will apply to all topics, not just the one you're currently viewing). See Also: Searching a Groups.io Topics Page/Archive Browsing a Groups.io Topics Page/Archive --Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~ Martin Luther King, Jr. |
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Brian's Mail list account
I think the only answer then is to use the email client to do it instead of the online interface, which I never can get used to.
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Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...> To: <chat@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [chat] How to browse each message in the thread in the order in which it was created The only two orders available in the Groups.io web interface for topics is either "Oldest to newest" (the default) or "Newest to oldest" which I use. When you have any topic open, search on Date, and there is a toggle for the sort order (and this will apply to all topics, not just the one you're currently viewing). See Also: *Searching a Groups.io Topics Page/Archive* ( https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HczDVJcIHqun9Ne2e4RlYbzHZBDLy6CN ) *Browsing a Groups.io Topics Page/Archive* ( https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1M3O2CIUjsXJFvOl18zUkGDncrMZmo0Sg ) -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 *Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.* ~ Martin Luther King, Jr. |
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Rowen Cary
Hi Brian, thanks for your reply, it solved my confusion. On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 05:53 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
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On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 03:47 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think the only answer then is to use the email client to do it instead of the online interface, which I never can get used to.- That can work, but only if you have actually not deleted earlier messages. After nuking them in e-mail clients at some point the trash gets emptied and you have no access to the entirety of a topic. With the web interface, you do, and that's what appeared to be being asked about. The Groups.io web interface does have a learning curve, but it's not impossible to get accustomed to. I don't expect everyone (or even most) will be using it, but we do have some members other than myself who do use it as their primary interface to Groups.io. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~ Martin Luther King, Jr. |
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Gene
Although the nice thing about GMail and an IMAP account is that you
can send messages to trash without worrying because a message is
automatically emptied from trash when it has been there for thirty
days. I find that useful off and on when I want to see messages in
threads that aren't too old and when, at times, I delete a list
message, then realize I want to respond to it a little later.
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Gene On 10/19/2022 6:06 PM, Brian Vogel
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Brian's Mail list account
Ah, but if you use pop3 and Imap, you get the ability to auto sort in pop3 and keep stuff as long as you like, you can still elect to do the other thing without losing the one you have locally.
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I guess its horses for courses as the saying goes. I think my major annoyance is that all my email addresses work correctly except Gmail which seems to have its new messages moved when you read them on pop3 on another machine. I guess its just that II don't like interfaces and systems that are remote to me and thus can change on the whim of the supplier! Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <chat@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [chat] How to browse each message in the thread in the order in which it was created Although the nice thing about GMail and an IMAP account is that you can |
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Gene
Here is a discussion of IMAP and POP3 accounts. It is a little long so people may read it if they wish.
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With an IMAP account, you can save messages locally if you wish but you have to save the messages you want in the e-mail program. You can sort messages by creating message rules in your on line account. I don't know how that compares with creating message rules in an e-mail program in terms of difficulty. You can create message rules using Thunderbird in the program itself for IMAP mail but from the little I've read, that causes messages to take longer to be ready when message headers are downloaded. One possible advantage of a POP3 account is that on slower older machines, perhaps mail would take longer to be ready to read when you open it. On my old machine, which isn't nearly as fast as newer machines, in recent versions of Thunderbird, IMAP account mail takes too long to open. That's one reason I still use a POP3 account, because my mail opens much faster. But when I discussed this on another list, people wrote to say that their e-mail opens at a good speed so there may be no important difference using a fast machine. I understand how Google treats IMAP accounts and POP3 accounts and it is important to understand that if you are going to use both accounts. Confusion and e-mails not being where you want them may result if you don't understand that. The main reason I use an IMAP account is because I can easily see messages I've deleted from my POP3 account if I later decide I want to respond to them. Sometimes that happens. The messages I download in my pop account are sent by Google to trash so I find them there in my IMAP account. A message stays there until it is a month old, then it is automatically deleted. I also like IMAP accounts because my sent mail is retained and if I switch machines all the e-mail is available in the IMAP account that was available on my old machine's e-mail program without me transferring any e-mail. Gene On 10/21/2022 9:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Ah, but if you use pop3 and Imap, you get the ability to auto sort in pop3 and keep stuff as long as you like, you can still elect to do the other thing without losing the one you have locally. |
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think my major annoyance is that all my email addresses work correctly except Gmail which seems to have its new messages moved when you read them on pop3 on another machine.- Using POP3 and IMAP (where that is possible) for the same email account will always be a fraught proposition and is ill-advised. The general advice is pick one, or the other. And if you intend to access the same account on multiple devices pick IMAP, which was designed for that purpose without the need to tweak anything. POP3 can be made to work across multiple devices with tweaking, but that protocol was invented before the very idea of doing multiple-device email access with all devices being kept in sync had ever entered the consciousness of the IT world. And so long as most email client filtering does not get "handed back" to the server when you're using IMAP (regardless of provider) it's well worth learning, if nothing else, how to set up server side filters using your email service provider's web interface for doing so. That makes it a "one and done" affair and all of your filtering and folder sorting will have already occurred before your email client(s) on all your devices ever lay eyes on it. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. ~ John Rogers |
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