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How to make accessible installation
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Hello.
I would like to instal some VST3 plugins from Melda production suite, but installation isn't very accessible. So, how to write to developers to make this installation accessible? Thank You. Best regards Marco Also, here is the link: https://meldaproduction.b-cdn.net/download/maudioplugins/maudioplugins_16_01_setup.exe |
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udit pandey
hi friend, what do you think? if you will say this to the devs they will do it for you? they might, but every 4 out of 3 case, they don't do it at all so, for your installation, you should use nvda's ocr (nvda plus r) it may work |
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Thank You. I try with It. Maybe It'll help me. Marco Dňa 21. 10. 2022 o 18:11 udit pandey
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Brian's Mail list account
Before you start writing to them, I'd get sighted help to install them and see if these effects themselves are accessible, as it would be a shame to find that they do not work anyway.
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I think the problem often is that small companies do not understand how we use computers and even less about accessibility standards, and how to write code to make the correct details available to a screenreader. Since most of us users do not know the under the hood stuff like this either, the best you can hope for is to point out they are missing a market share if they don't fix it, but as always, the company is very unlikely to want the expense of rewriting the code. It would have been much better if they had done it in the first place. I also realise that in many cases the software is made portable from the operating system point of view, and thus to add windows specific APIs would mean porting from one OS to another is going to get complicated. Give it a try though, they can only say no or ignore you, Personally if a company does say no or ignores me,I'd tell all my friends that they have a bad attitude. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Oros" <marco.oros93@...> To: <chat@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:58 PM Subject: [chat] How to make accessible installation Hello. I would like to instal some VST3 plugins from Melda production suite, but installation isn't very accessible. So, how to write to developers to make this installation accessible? Thank You. Best regards Marco Also, here is the link: https://meldaproduction.b-cdn.net/download/maudioplugins/maudioplugins_16_01_setup.exe |
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Brian's Mail list account
Do these install from a stand alone file, or like many these days install a stub and bring in files over the web as needed. If its stand alone. see if the file can be opened by winzip or one of the other archive software. Sometimes you find its the unpacked which is inaccessible with a normal set up file inside.
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Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Oros" <marco.oros93@...> To: <chat@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [chat] How to make accessible installation Thank You. I try with It. Maybe It'll help me. |
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On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 04:30 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Personally if a company does say no or ignores me,I'd tell all my friends that they have a bad attitude.- This is not said with snark toward you, but as a realistic observation: Then most companies are going to have "a bad attitude" toward most of us, regardless of visual status. Pretty much all software has a target market, and if you as an individual are not a part of that market you can count on being ignored. And in the case of things like operating systems (not just Windows), they're Swiss Army Knife type affairs that are meant to make it possible for multiple, diverse demographics to do what they need to do, which involves compromises on the part of all of those demographics - no one gets exactly what they'd like. I expect that most companies are going to ignore me (or at least appear to ignore me) and consider it a nice surprise when that's not the case when it comes to anything related to software (and plenty that's not, too). -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. ~ John Rogers |
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Brian's Mail list account
I think the point is respect of others views, and at least the courtesy of a reply. It does leave a very bad taste when your money is as good as anyone else's. Obviously this is not a universally shared view of respect and courtesy toward all potential customers.
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Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...> To: <chat@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [chat] How to make accessible installation On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 04:30 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: - This is not said with snark toward you, but as a realistic observation: Then most companies are going to have "a bad attitude" toward most of us, regardless of visual status. Pretty much all software has a target market, and if you as an individual are not a part of that market you can count on being ignored. And in the case of things like operating systems (not just Windows), they're Swiss Army Knife type affairs that are meant to make it possible for multiple, diverse demographics to do what they need to do, which involves compromises on the part of all of those demographics - no one gets exactly what they'd like. I expect that most companies are going to ignore me (or at least appear to ignore me) and consider it a nice surprise when that's not the case when it comes to anything related to software (and plenty that's not, too). -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 *There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.* ~ John Rogers |
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On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 07:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think the point is respect of others views, and at least the courtesy of a reply.- That would be directly dependent on the mechanism of communication. If I call customer service or email them, then I expect the courtesy of a reply. If I put in a suggestion through something like the Feedback Hub or any of a number of ways (GitHub springs to mind, but is hardly the only one) for a change in or addition to software, I do not. It's utterly unrealistic to expect "the courtesy of a reply" in situations where you know the receiving end is inundated and where, in the immediate term, there is going to be no change. For myself, I hate automated replies of the, "We got this and are looking into it," type more than I hate silence. I'm fine with a "we got this" auto-reply, but I know darned well that the probability that anything I send is actually being looked into is very low indeed if I'm dealing with a large company. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. ~ John Rogers |
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