Looking For The Best Method for Transferring Ownership of a Groups.io Mailing List


David Goldfield
 

Hi. I’ve been researching methods for transferring ownership of a Groups.io list. If someone no longer wanted to run a group and wished to transfer ownership to me is making me a co-owner the most efficient way where I could then demote the former owner? Would I then be able to change my status to an owner?

 

 

David Goldfield,

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David,

           What you describe is the only way I know of to transfer ownership.  The current owner designates another member or members as having owner status.  Then that person or one of them "demotes" the existing owner to member or moderator or that owner can unsubscribe.

            Only someone with owner status can grant someone else owner status, so that has to be done when "inviting the new owner in" then that new owner can demote the existing owner (or other owners).  A group can have more than one individual designated with owner status.
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Gene
 

A list can have more than one owner. I haven't looked into it, but as I understand it, the current owner can designate another member or more members than just one as owners. Then the owner who no longer wanted to be an owner might be able to simply unsubscribe, but I don't know that. I would think he could make himself just a member if he wished after at least one more owner is in place. I doubt one owner can change another owner's status.

Gene

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Hi. I’ve been researching methods for transferring ownership of a Groups.io list. If someone no longer wanted to run a group and wished to transfer ownership to me is making me a co-owner the most efficient way where I could then demote the former owner? Would I then be able to change my status to an owner?





David Goldfield,

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On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Gene wrote:
I doubt one owner can change another owner's status
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You would be incorrect on that, at least as things default.  Owner status makes you "the grand poo-bah" and able to do anything to anyone else, including other owners.  It's effectively analogous to admin status under Windows 10 or root under any Linux/Unix/Android.

A group can have as many owners as whoever was the first one sees fit.  But any one of those owners has the power to push the others out.  In practice, I've never seen it happen, as doing things like that will get you (any you) tossed from Groups.io entirely, not to mention if you can't trust someone you've chosen as co-owner they should never have been chosen as co-owner.

One of the things often not thought about is "line of succession."   I've seen owners literally walk away from groups, at least leaving them in existence, but with no administration in place at all and others just pull the plug with no warning.  If you have a group with many members, and that you expect to have a potential life beyond you, it makes sense to always have two co-owners so that if something happens to one there still exists another with the necessary administrative powers to keep things moving along as usual.  When I last checked, Groups.io does not have any formal mechanism for transfer of ownership in the event of the death or disappearance of the person who holds the account that owns a given group.  There are "zombie groups" out there, not that the groups have died or gone inactive, but that have no one at the helm anymore.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

The poor wish to be rich, the rich wish to be happy, the single wish to be married, and the married wish to be dead.

       ~ Ann Landers


 

By the way, in just having played with this a bit, it does look as though an owner can demote themself IF there is at least one co-owner for that group.  I don't follow that practice, preferring to have whoever is the new owner or new co-owner do it simply for the practice of having done so, even if I'm the one walking them through the process.  Most of what owners and moderators do administratively is handled strictly through the web interface rather than email.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

The poor wish to be rich, the rich wish to be happy, the single wish to be married, and the married wish to be dead.

       ~ Ann Landers