Using NVDA as a work tool compared with Jaws.
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Khalid Anwar
I don’t really want to start a general discussion about the differences between the two, but there is a common theme that jaws is much more suitable for a work environment, more flexible and adaptable than NVDA.
Now I know Jaws has certain advantages, for example, it can be scripted but I’ve never run across a situation at work where I had difficulty accessing a website, although I appreciate that certainly can happen but there are usually alternatives through NVDA by changing the browsing mode and utilising object navigation.
Are there any other advantages I’ve missed to having jaws, I’m wondering whether it’s worth paying for and particularly I’d be interested to hear from people who use both on a day-to-day basis. |
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Gene
I haven't used JAWS to any extent for years but at times, if I can't
do something with NVDA, I try JAWS. As a general user, not a work
user, I can do just about everything I want with NVDA and I very
seldom use JAWS for something. I do need to use JAWS if I want to
cancel a download using Thunderbird. I don't recall if NVDA doesn't
see the cancel button or doesn't do anything when you activate it,
even when using object navigation, but I can activate it with JAWS.
I believe I use the Touch Cursor for that, which is roughly
equivalent to object navigation in NVDA, not in movement commands,
but in what it does.
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Since I never know when I might come across something I need to use JAWS for, even though very infrequent, I keep a demo on my machine. My impression is that JAWS gives better proofreading information if you are working with Word. I don't know enough about JAWS to know if you can use the same features with other Word processors. But JAWS, for example, can be set to tell you if there are extra periods, or, I believe, things like a left parenthesis with no expected right parenthesis. As far as I know, NVDA, can't be set to tell you such things. Gene On 3/20/2023 8:58 AM, Khalid Anwar
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I don’t really want to start a general discussion about the differences between the two, but there is a common theme that jaws is much more suitable for a work environment, more flexible and adaptable than NVDA. |
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 09:58 AM, Khalid Anwar wrote:
Jaws has certain advantages, for example, it can be scripted- As can NVDA. NVDA Add-Ons and JAWS scripts are analogous constructions and there already exist many NVDA Add-Ons that are dedicated to access of specific programs, which is what a very great many JAWS scripts focus on. I know of people who insist that NVDA at work is just fine and others who insist they must have JAWS. Each of these screen readers has certain things that they handle with a bit more grace than the other. What you actually use them for is what's ultimately going to make the determination. There is no one, single, generic answer to this question/debate. I do hope that those who are dual users or who switched screen reader, depending on environment or task needs, will end up chiming in. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) Let me hasten to add that I *do* like cologne. I just much prefer it as a subtle hint instead of an aromachete. ~ Clay Colwell |
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JM Casey
Are you in a position where you already have a job and are tryign to put together your set of tools to work effectively? If so, and your employer wants to pay for JAWS, I would let them. If not though, I wouldn’t do it myself if you don’t need it, for the sake of some nebulous future expectation. Some employers have very different attitudes about this stuff. Large organisations may want to go for JAWS and may even already know about it, while smaller oens probably won’t. that’s been my own, admittedly not all-encompassing, experience, anyway. It’s certainly less about websites, than about specialised applications your job might use. I mean, I guess some of them. Certainly some of them could be web-based. You definitely have to find out what tools your job will be using. I don’t know about the development of specialised NVDA add-ons and who might do this, or how much they charge. There are a few JAWS script developers out there, and if you need that service, that’s generally something your employer should be paying for, not you. But of course you have to get your foot in the door before they’d be willign to do something like that. So again, without knowing more, how can we say?
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I don’t really want to start a general discussion about the differences between the two, but there is a common theme that jaws is much more suitable for a work environment, more flexible and adaptable than NVDA. Now I know Jaws has certain advantages, for example, it can be scripted but I’ve never run across a situation at work where I had difficulty accessing a website, although I appreciate that certainly can happen but there are usually alternatives through NVDA by changing the browsing mode and utilising object navigation. Are there any other advantages I’ve missed to having jaws, I’m wondering whether it’s worth paying for and particularly I’d be interested to hear from people who use both on a day-to-day basis. |
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Dave Grossoehme
NVDA has ADDOn's to download and install to help with a task which are like scripts in Jaws. With Jaws being written in an older language of C and then being updated to C++ there can always be questions on an older language to a newer programming language where NVDA is written in Python Code. Dave
On 3/20/2023 9:58 AM, Khalid Anwar
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I don’t really want to start a general discussion about the differences between the two, but there is a common theme that jaws is much more suitable for a work environment, more flexible and adaptable than NVDA. |
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