What is the antivirus on there, Jim? If Mcafee, I'd nuke that--& you'll definitively need sighted assistance to do that.
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On 1/4/23, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: That's too bad, since I've had similar experiences to what you are describing.
I think it might be a good idea to exchange the computer since it is my guess that it may not be easy to figure out the cause.
Gene
On 1/4/2023 7:07 PM, Jim Pemberton wrote:
Hi Gene. To answer your question, I’ve used this PC almost exclusively with a wired USB keyboard, rather than the on board one, as I don’t like the built-in keyboard. I did try using the machine with the built-in keyboard, with the external one disconnected, just to rule that out as a possibility, and it made no difference.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene *Sent:* Wednesday, January 4, 2023 6:48 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking
In thinking about your problem, there is one thing that comes to mind that hasn't been discussed. If you are using the internal keyboard, do you have an external keyboard you can use? One thing that may cause a sort of mimic of speech being cut off is that if the mouse pad is enabled, you may be losing focus and sent to another window. If that happens fast enough, the effect may be that speech appears to be stopped. Just exactly what happens in terms of movement, I'm not sure. Perhaps you are moved very quickly to a new window and then somewhere else. While I'm not sure just what happens, I had experiences that sound similar to yours when I was recently playing with a computer with the mouse pad enabled. I would often hear the beginning of speech and then it would stop. I know it was the mouse pad because if I used an external keyboard, the problem didn't occur.
Gene
On 1/4/2023 5:51 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm not a tech but it sounds as though the problem is occurring at a lower level than Windows.
Gene
On 1/4/2023 3:26 PM, Jim Pemberton wrote:
Hi Brian, and many thanks to you, and all of the others in this thread who have offered suggestions to try to solve this problem. To try to sum up the story as best I can, I have a new to me HP laptop, with a clean windows install, and the latest NVDA. At seemingly random times, something is causing NVDA to either stop speaking completely, or is causing the speech to be cut off after a syllable or two. It has happened at the log in screen, and after several minutes of use. I’ve tried using the built-in laptop speaker, soundcard and headphone jack, plus a couple of USB soundcards and keyboards, as well as the Microsoft and E-Speak synthesizers, all yielding the same seemingly random result. Restarting NVDA does not solve the problem. I can only bring speech back by restarting the machine, until of course it stop s again. Doing a system restore didn’t fix it. I did an NVDA remote connection on another PC in the same room, and when the problem occurs, the speech is cut off on both machines. I tried using narrator instead of NVDA, and rather than the speech being cut off, it told me that “one running window was requesting attention, after which it would say not much more than the phrase, “unknown key” repeatedly. That leads me to believe that something is popping up, which is blocking speech output with both Narrator and NVDA. The latest thing I’ve just tried is to just reinstall Windows completely. Since I only just got this PC, and with the trouble I’m having with it, I hadn’t really had time to install much on it, so redoing Windows didn’t seem too painful. To my shock, the problem occurred in the midst of the Installation process. Fortunately, I was far enough into the installation process that I could pretty much guess my way through what to click on to complete it. That’s basically where I’m at now.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel *Sent:* Wednesday, January 4, 2023 1:20 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking
Jim,
For issues as complex as this one is, it is really helpful to have a list compiled of exactly what you have already tried so all assistants can assess "where we are" in their own minds.
I realize you've mentioned a number of things, but in cases like this I have found it very helpful for the original questioner to compile a list, and keep it up to date, reposting it along the way as "the next thing" has been tried.
Also, and you've offered this information, too, but it's helpful to have an "ecosystem synopsis" where things like the Windows version(s) and builds, NVDA Versions, add-on lists for each machine, is put together and updates posted as additional information is asked for and answered.
It's just too darned hard, and even sometimes for the person on the front line (you), to remember everything as diagnostics and fix attempts march on. The amount of trial and error involved makes it all very hard to keep straight over time without information compiled in an easy to digest manner. --
Brian *- *Virginia, USA *- *Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit
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