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opening the attachment isn't a problem. Executing the file is. I
enclosed in a zip file. My antivirus, avira, missed it. When I
uploaded it to virustotal, I was the first one to upload it and
only 2 antiviruses caught it.
On 11/19/2016 9:03 PM, Gene wrote:
No matter how careful you are,
you can still be infected, even by going to reputable sites if
those sites are hacked or if the advertising on those sites is
hacked. Yes, people should follow good safety procedures.
but that does not minimize the need or usefulness of good
And no matter how careful you
are, what about the moment of inattention. I'm very careful
about not opening attachments. but even so, there was one
time in perhaps fifteen years or longer, that I wasn't really
thinking much about what I was doing and opened an attachment
that came from a message that looked as though it was from
someone I knew. If I had been paying proper attention, I
wouldn't have done so but the point is that unless you are
sure that you will always be paying proper attention from now
until you stop using computers, there is always a small or
very small chance for error. I've seen techs or techies
minimize the importance of antimalware programs. Frankly, I
consider this to be the overconfidence of knowledge. I
believe that safety is the lesson of knowledge and experience.
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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus
I agree, the first point of security should be your head.
Next I'd use something like firefox with better privacy for flash
cookies, ublock for adds, and noscript for scripts.
That way if you click malware it may not run.
To be honest I have been tempted to get more passive protection
gets stuff before it handles things.
On 20/11/2016 6:44 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
> I have seen virtually any antivirus or security suite you can
name either praised to the high heavens or called almost
completely useless. It really depends on who's doing the
reviewing and the metrics they're using.
> As has been said here, and elsewhere, antivirus programs are
not and should not be considered your first line of defense
against infection. Your own browsing habits play a far, far
greater role in that. Good browsing hygiene will keep you quite
safe, if not 100% so.
> If you have not been infected nor had whatever antivirus or
security program you've been using report anything being
quarantined in a very long time you can be reasonably certain that
your browsing habits are OK. If you're constantly infected or
have things quarantined without actually having been infected it
would be very wise to start looking at precisely when, how, and
why this is happening. Most infections are the direct result of
user action, not some backdoor entry.
> Windows Defender has proven more than adequate for more users
on more machines than I can count at this point in my career.
Nothing is perfect, some competitors may be better, but Windows
Defender is not even close to "junk".
> This thread entitled, Windows Defender as an integral part of
Windows 10 ( http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/632487/windows-defender-as-integral-part-of-windows-10/
) , which just started yesterday on bleepingcomputer.com's Windows
10 Support Forum, is worth reading [disclaimer: I've got two posts
in that thread so far, but that's not why I think it's worth
> *Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is
complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.*
> ~ Lauren Bacall