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Opening an attachment often automatically causes it
to be executed.
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus
opening the attachment isn't a problem. Executing the file is. I recieved a
antivirus, avira, missed it. When I uploaded it to virustotal, I was the first
one to upload it and only 2 antiviruses caught it.
On 11/19/2016 9:03 PM, Gene wrote:
No matter how careful you are, you can still be
infected, even by going to reputable sites if those sites are hacked or if the
advertising on those sites is hacked. Yes, people should follow good
safety procedures. but that does not minimize the need or usefulness of
good antimalware programs.
And no matter how careful you are, what about the
moment of inattention. I'm very careful about not opening
attachments. but even so, there was one time in perhaps fifteen years or
longer, that I wasn't really thinking much about what I was doing and opened
an attachment that came from a message that looked as though it was from
someone I knew. If I had been paying proper attention, I wouldn't have
done so but the point is that unless you are sure that you will always be
paying proper attention from now until you stop using computers, there is
always a small or very small chance for error. I've seen techs or
techies minimize the importance of antimalware programs. Frankly, I
consider this to be the overconfidence of knowledge. I believe that
safety is the lesson of knowledge and experience.
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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus
I agree, the first point of security should be your
Next I'd use something like firefox with better privacy for flash
cookies, ublock for adds, and noscript for scripts.
That way if you
click malware it may not run.
To be honest I have been tempted to get more
passive protection that
gets stuff before it handles
On 20/11/2016 6:44 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
have seen virtually any antivirus or security suite you can name either
praised to the high heavens or called almost completely useless. It
really depends on who's doing the reviewing and the metrics they're
> As has been said here, and elsewhere, antivirus
programs are not and should not be considered your first line of defense
against infection. Your own browsing habits play a far, far greater role
in that. Good browsing hygiene will keep you quite safe, if not 100%
> If you have not been infected nor had whatever antivirus
or security program you've been using report anything being quarantined in a
very long time you can be reasonably certain that your browsing habits are
OK. If you're constantly infected or have things quarantined without
actually having been infected it would be very wise to start looking at
precisely when, how, and why this is happening. Most infections are the
direct result of user action, not some backdoor entry.
Defender has proven more than adequate for more users on more machines than I
can count at this point in my career. Nothing is perfect, some
competitors may be better, but Windows Defender is not even close to
> This thread entitled, Windows Defender as an integral
part of Windows 10 ( http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/632487/windows-defender-as-integral-part-of-windows-10/
) , which just started yesterday on bleepingcomputer.com's Windows 10 Support
Forum, is worth reading [disclaimer: I've got two posts in that thread so far,
but that's not why I think it's worth looking at].
> *Here is a test to find out whether your mission in
life is complete. If you’re alive, it
> ~ Lauren