Re: about nvda and selection of documents:


Quentin Christensen
 

Running Windows 7 Home Premium with NVDA 2016.3.  I can open Notepad, open a document (I wasn't sure about the original phrasing of "selecting documents", I thought maybe it meant in the file open / save dialog.  I worked out I think it meant selecting text in a document).

Everything reads as expected.  The only thing that doesn't read is if I try and press SHIFT+DOWN ARROW from the very bottom line in the file.  This is the way NotePad works however, rather than a flaw in NVDA.  It doesn't move down a line from the bottom line, therefore it doesn't select anything, therefore nothing happens and NVDA doesn't report anything.  To select the entire file, including the last line, do one of the following:

- Press control+a - this selects the entire text.
- When on the last line, press shift+end - this selects to the end of the current line.
- To select from the current point to the end of the file, press shift+control+end.  This selects from the current point to the end of the document.

Replace end with home in those last two commands to select from the current point to the start of the line or document as appropriate.

Otherwise, the only thing I can think of is if something else has stolen focus and shift+down arrow doesn't do anything in that other program?  In that case, press NVDA+T to read the title bar, or NVDA+tab to read the current control with focus.  In Notepad NVDA+T will read "filename - notepad" - where filename is the name of the current file.  In Notepad, NVDA+TAB will read "Edit, multiline focussed", then either the selected text, or the current line.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:02 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi,

I can use all of the Windows commands to select, copy, and paste text with Notepad and Wordpad. I am using win10 1607 version with JAWS 18 and NVDA 2016.3, and all of this works for me with both screen readers. I just wanted you to know.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 8:22 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:

 

Then it isn't with Wordpad? You originally said it was with both. That makes me suspect that something is wrong with how Windows is working with notepad or with notepad itself.   

 

I need to add more information to my last message.  After you try to select text with shift down arrow, you nee to copy it to the clipboard, control c, before trying the read clipboard command I gave. 

 

If Notepad isn't selecting text but Wordpad is, you may want to open text files in Wordpad where you want to select in this way.  Also, you haven't said anything about what happens when you select in other ways.  What happens if you use shift and right arrow to move and select by character? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 6:42 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:

 

the problem is only with windows notepad and .txt document.

On 12/11/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
> no.
> without starting nvda and document maximize.
>
> On 12/11/16, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:
>> Have you tried restarting NVDA while a document is open? Do you have a
>> document maximized when selecting a piece of text?
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/2016 11:22 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
>>> yes.
>>> after openning files in wordpad and notepad, with shift+down, nvda says
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>> On 12/11/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
>>>> My guess is that the views used  are not the same. I'm assuming you
>>>> mean
>>>> when you want to open a file?
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal email to:-
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:26 PM
>>>> Subject: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hello every one.
>>>>> one of my friends uses windows seven with nvda 16.3
>>>>> when wantes to select documents in wordpad and notepad, with shift
>>>>> down arrow key, nvda says nothing about the document and also its
>>>>> selection.
>>>>> i mean in this case, nvda does not say anything.
>>>>> but the mozilla firefox and selection
>>>>>
>>>>> works good as normal.
>>>>> whats the prublem and whats the solution?--
>>>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>>>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>>>> in the very authentic narration is:
>>>>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>>>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>>>> al-islam.org
>>>>>
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> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
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--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

 




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