hi dejan and gene.
thanks so much for your guide about jarte.
does jarte support microsoft office formats?
can it open very large documents?
can i read docx and save my documents as docx with jarte?
i realy wish to use it and i hate from ribbon.
but unfortunately currently, it does not support unicode! and i cant
use my documents which are in farsi!
i sent email for developers and request inclusion of unicode.
and they mentioned, that it needs a very big change in the core of
program and also we have many requests about unicode except you.
when it can supports unicode, can i replace it with any office program
microsoft office, libreoffice and openoffice?
does it handle my basic needs and does it have support for microsoft
different formats?

On 12/12/16, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Running Windows 7 Home Premium with NVDA 2016.3. I can open Notepad,
open
a document (I wasn't sure about the original phrasing of "selecting
documents", I thought maybe it meant in the file open / save dialog. I
worked out I think it meant selecting text in a document).

Everything reads as expected. The only thing that doesn't read is if I
try
and press SHIFT+DOWN ARROW from the very bottom line in the file. This
is
the way NotePad works however, rather than a flaw in NVDA. It doesn't
move
down a line from the bottom line, therefore it doesn't select anything,
therefore nothing happens and NVDA doesn't report anything. To select
the
entire file, including the last line, do one of the following:

- Press control+a - this selects the entire text.
- When on the last line, press shift+end - this selects to the end of the
current line.
- To select from the current point to the end of the file, press
shift+control+end. This selects from the current point to the end of the
document.

Replace end with home in those last two commands to select from the
current
point to the start of the line or document as appropriate.

Otherwise, the only thing I can think of is if something else has stolen
focus and shift+down arrow doesn't do anything in that other program? In
that case, press NVDA+T to read the title bar, or NVDA+tab to read the
current control with focus. In Notepad NVDA+T will read "filename -
notepad" - where filename is the name of the current file. In Notepad,
NVDA+TAB will read "Edit, multiline focussed", then either the selected
text, or the current line.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:02 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...>
wrote:

Hi,

I can use all of the Windows commands to select, copy, and paste text
with
Notepad and Wordpad. I am using win10 1607 version with JAWS 18 and NVDA
2016.3, and all of this works for me with both screen readers. I just
wanted you to know.

David Moore

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*From: *Gene <gsasner@...>
*Sent: *Sunday, December 11, 2016 8:22 AM

*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:



Then it isn't with Wordpad? You originally said it was with both. That
makes me suspect that something is wrong with how Windows is working
with
notepad or with notepad itself.



I need to add more information to my last message. After you try to
select text with shift down arrow, you nee to copy it to the clipboard,
control c, before trying the read clipboard command I gave.



If Notepad isn't selecting text but Wordpad is, you may want to open
text
files in Wordpad where you want to select in this way. Also, you
haven't
said anything about what happens when you select in other ways. What
happens if you use shift and right arrow to move and select by
character?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:* nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...>

*Sent:* Sunday, December 11, 2016 6:42 AM

*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:



the problem is only with windows notepad and .txt document.

On 12/11/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

no.
without starting nvda and document maximize.

On 12/11/16, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Have you tried restarting NVDA while a document is open? Do you have
a
document maximized when selecting a piece of text?


On 12/11/2016 11:22 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:

yes.
after openning files in wordpad and notepad, with shift+down, nvda
says
nothing.

On 12/11/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>

wrote:

My guess is that the views used are not the same. I'm assuming you
mean
when you want to open a file?

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:

hello every one.
one of my friends uses windows seven with nvda 16.3
when wantes to select documents in wordpad and notepad, with shift
down arrow key, nvda says nothing about the document and also its
selection.
i mean in this case, nvda does not say anything.
but the mozilla firefox and selection

works good as normal.
whats the prublem and whats the solution?--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

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--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org