Re: starting NVDA


 

hello every one.
thanks brian for your information.
but i dont know the reason.
nvda hangs for me many times and i could not restart it again with control+alt+n
whats the problem?
the best versions for me were nvda 2016.1 and before.
many people say it.

On 12/23/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
On a UK keyboard, the left alt is labelled ‘Alt’ and the right alt key is
labelled ‘Alt Gr’. For touch typists, pressing ‘Alt Gr’ with the right hand
is equivalent to pressing Alt+Ctrl with the left hand. For example, I have
a desktop shortcut to MS Word with a shortcut key property of Ctrl+Alt+w.
Pressing Alt Gr+w will open me a new Word document. There used to be two
alt keys on UK keyboards but new machines started to appear with the ‘Alt
Gr’ key maybe late eighties/early nineties.



Cheers

Chris



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Sent: 23 December 2016 09:09
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Subject: Re: [nvda] starting NVDA



I've never seen or heard of such behavior and it would be irrational to set
things up in that way.



Gene

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I think you are wrong as my machines always generate control/alt on the
iight alt key but alt alone on the left one.
The only difference I was noting was that on XP it seems to be possible to
create two shortcuts with the same operating keys, whereas later on I think

its not. Could of course be the result of a setting that causes this, but
its going to be a windows setting not an nvda one.

Brian

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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:40 PM
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Shortcuts don't distinguish between which alt key is used in creating a
shortcut command. Control alt and letter or number will work with either
control alt combination no matter how you create the command. That's true
of XP as well. There are times when something distinguishes between right
and left alt. Such cases must be rare since I've never come a cross a
command that does.

Gene
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I think it does this on 7 as well. It actually makes it easier as the right
hand alt is in fact alt control its very easy to set up shortcuts for all
sorts of things whereas in xp it could get corrupted veryeasily.



Brian

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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] starting NVDA


In addition, if you happen to be installing or reinstalling NVDA the option
to create this shortcut is a part of the installation process.

I hadn't realized, and I don't know if it's the same under earlier versions
of Windows or not, but under Win10 once you're in the shortcut tab of
properties, all you need to type in the shortcut key field is the letter N
if you want CTRL+ALT+N to be the shortcut. No matter what character I type
Win10 is prepopulating the CTRL+ALT+ part of the shortcut and you cannot
delete it. If you backspace out the character you've typed it removes the
CTRL+ALT+ part of the shortcut automatically too.
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