I, too, will join the chorus and say that Joseph did a wonderful job
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in running the list. Since he has done this for some time, he is in
the best position to suggest a successor. I am sure that there are
other active participants who have an idea who would be a good List
moderator. But, I, for one, have no idea who would have the skills and
the willingness to replace Joseph. If there are more than one
candidates, I will be willing to vote if the candidates introduce
themselves and say a few words about their skills.
On 3/23/16, john s <jschwery@...> wrote:
I agree with others. Moderators can't be elected and need to be
chosen. I will not vote because I don't know many of the
participants on this list.
earlier, Joseph Lee, wrote:
Although for some, selection by a moderator is great, I believe it
a chance for members to exercise a fundamental right: petition. Perhaps
moderators may make a wrong choice (to them, it was a right decision), but
think we cannot forget the following principles:
* The real stars of a show are audiences. In other words, forum members
should participate in making a forum great, and one way is through voicing
opinions. Many of us would say the presenters (or moderators) should be
stars, but I firmly believe that the purpose of forming a forum is for the
benefit of the members within who have come together for a purpose.
* Moderators should show vulnerability. There is a reason why some people
are selected to lead, moderate and represent a forum: they have specific
calling (or a sense of duty), and one way to let moderators show they are
human is through vulnerability (having a mindset to walk around the
conference hall and sit with attendees instead of occupying the speaker's
podium all day).
* People and content will decide the fate and reputation of a forum. Many
would say content is the crown jewel of a forum; I think it is both
(topics) and people (moderators, members, outsiders and what not) who are
the gemstones of a forum. As an outgoing moderator (outgoing as in soon to
retire), I believe that one way to make this a reality is through voting:
let you participate in a decision that'll decide the overall direction of
forum for years to come, to give you a sense of pride for the fact that
are an invaluable part of this forum, to let you express your opinion
and to remind the new moderator to be accountable and answerable to all of
you. In other words, by letting you vote, I'd like to give you the
gift (I think) any moderator could give: acknowledging list members as
partners in decision-making, inviting you along the ride as we make
decisions, and to thank you for your support by giving you a chance to
select the new moderator.
* This isn't the first time we held votes to decide important list
What made our transition to Groups.IO possible was overwhelming "yes"
Hope this helps (sorry if I came across as rude).
From: Gwensinfo [mailto:gwensinfo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Electing a new moderator
Joseph, it sounds like you have an awful lot on your plate. I can
that, as moderator, you might want to step down so that you could provide
more support and help to some of the other focus projects within NVDA. I
wish you well. I really think an election though is not the right way to
Gwen and the great Orb
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"a dog has many friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue "
On Mar 22, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Joseph Lee <@joslee>history, development and key ideas.
If I understand Chris, he meant someone who is familiar with NVDA's
To answer the second question: in 2013, at the time of taking office, Iwas nearing completion of my NVDA tutorials, an active participant in NVDA
translations work and was learning NVDA source code and planning Control
Usage Assistant add-on (which is now maintained by a member of this list).
At this time, I am:
* Soon to be former associate moderator of this list.release coordinator.
* One of the community add-on reviewers and serve as the quarterly
* Produced numerous tutorials, including Welcome to NVDA seriesin 2015).
* Current maintainer of or have maintained the following NVDA add-ons:Control Usage Assistant (original add-on creator and former maintainer),
Enhanced Touch Gestures (add-on creator and maintainer), GoldWave (add-on
creator and maintainer), Resource Monitor (current maintainer),
StationPlaylist Studio (current maintainer), Windows 10 App Essentials
(add-on creator and maintainer).
* The original author of NVDA add-on development guide.case sensitive find routine, let NVDA announce toast notifications in
* NVDA translator (Korean).
* Code contributor to NVDA screen reader project (I am the one who
Windows 10, added ability to let NVDA not play startup and shutdown
initiated Outlook Calendar support, maintain a number of third-party NVDA
snapshots, and am researching features such as ability to disable
add-ons and letting NVDA announce notifications in Microsoft Edge).
* Involved in projects related to NVDA, including serving as one of thepoints of contact regarding NVDA's support for Unified English Braille
* Organized or led initiatives on various gatherings (both local andinternational scale), including all NVDACon until now.
* Chair of the NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee, which, amongother things, is tasked with organizing NVDACon International 2016.
* Served as one of the many points of contact between users, developersand supporters of NVDA.
Hope this helps.of NV Access Limited, or some other (hopefully larger) group?
From: Antony Stone [mailto:Antony.Stone@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Electing a new moderator
I have two questions about this:
1. Who do you mean by "the NVDA establishment"? Do you mean the
2. Was Joseph a part of "the NVDA establishment" when he became list
that the job was already taken."
On Tuesday 22 Mar 2016 at 15:48, Chris Mullins wrote:--
I concur with Gene and Laz. Democratic election is not the way to go.
Someone from within the NVDA establishment is required to take on the
"In fact I wanted to be John Cleese and it took me some time to realise
- Douglas Adams
Please reply to the
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.