Re: controling the mouse?

Jacques <lists4js@...>

Excellent post David. Those who haven't been using Golden Cursor up till now are sure to consider installing this add-on.


On 02 Feb 2017 07:50, David Moore wrote:

I find the golden cursor the most exciting NVDA add on, and here is
exactly why. First of all, You can press a key command, and Golden
cursor will tell you in pixels where the mouse pointer is on the screen.
Left side is 0 in the X direction, and top is 0 in the y direction of
the pointer. Golden Cursor gives you the pointer position in the X,
first, then the Y. So, if Golden cursor says 34 748, then you know that
the pointer is only 34 pixels from the left of the screen, and it is all
of the way at the bottom of the screen 748 pixels from the top. Now, the
default of the computer screen with win10 is: 1366 pixels from left to
right, and 768 pixels from top to bottom. Now, the next best thing about
the Golden cursor, is that you can save a mouse pointer position so that
the pointer will go right to that spot. It is like setting a book mark
for the mouse pointer. You just press the command, and put in the X
number, and Y number, altogether without a space, and then space and
describe what that position is,like a very important button in an app,
for example. From now on, you can press a command that gives you a list
of all saved positions, and you can just enter on the one you want, and
the mouse pointer goes right to that spot. That is very powerful. Also,
the Golden cursor add on allows you to move the mouse pointer with your
arrow keys by so many pixels each time you press an arrow key. For
example, you can set Golden cursor to move ten pixels to the right each
time you press the right arrow. You just hold down the windows+NVDA as
you press the arrow keys. That is very powerful, because you can move
the pointer completely straight in a line up, down, right, or left. I
have memorized many pixel positions of things on the computer screen
because of Golden cursor. For example, the position of the start button
is 24 pixels to the left, and 748 pixels to the bottom. So, in other
words, the start button is in the very bottom left hand corner of the
screen. The desktop icons, are in the top left half of the screen. You
can press windows+NVDA+P to hear the position of the pointer by routing
it to the review cursor on any object. Now, the review cursor moves with
the system carrot, so you can simply go to a desktop icon, and press
Windows+NVDA+P on any desktop icon, and hear the pixel position of that
icon. You can then save that position, and then, you can later open the
list of saved positions and enter on that position, and the mouse
pointer will go right there. You can do this on the desktop with key
commands, I know. But, what about places in programs where you cannot
access a control any other way except for the mouse? This is where the
golden cursor becomes the most important add on, I believe. You can have
a sighted person put the mouse pointer on a spot, you can press
Windows+NVDA+P and hear the pixel position of where a sighted person has
put the mouse pointer. Now, you can save that position with Golden
cursor. Then, you can go to that position from now on, without sighted
help even if you are totally blind. That is how powerful the Golden
cursor is. There is even more it does. Now, with NVDA itself, without
the Golden cursor add on, you can still do a lot with the mouse. If you
go to the preferences menu and go to the mouse settings, you can Turn on
play beeps as you move the mouse pointer, either with a mouse, or on
your mouse pad on a laptop. For example, as I move my finger over my
touch pad on my laptop, with stereo head phones on, as I move the mouse
pointer left, the sound comes more and more out of the left head phone.
Moving it to the right does the opposite. If I move the pointer up, the
tone gets higher in pitch. Moving it down, makes the tones go down in
pitch. So, for example, If I hear a low pitch coming more from the right
head phone, that means that the pointer is at the bottom of the screen
more to the right side of the screen. That can tell you a lot right
there. Also, NVDA tells you the text that the pointer is moving over.
For example, if I am moving my finger, and I hear News app, I can click
my touch pad, just like a sighted person would, to open the News App.
Now, with the Golden cursor, I have the position of the pointer saved
where my News App is, so I can move the pointer right there, click just
like a sighted person, and the news app opens, and I can read the news
with the mouse pointer. I can access many apps with the Golden cursor
add on and moving the mouse pointer around the app. I hope that there
are blind users that are interested in just how much you can do with the
mouse, even if you are totally blind. I want to get people excited about
this. The mouse is not just for the sighted. There are places in apps,
that are used on the job, that only the mouse pointer can get to, and it
is possible to use Golden Cursor to save the pointer position for that
spot, and move the pointer to that spot, even if you are totally blind.
I would like to talk to the developer of the Golden cursor about keeping
it up and going, because I use it all the time, to access places in apps
that cannot be accessed any other way.

I hope this helps some of your and everyone's questions about this topic.

David Moore

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*From: *Brian Vogel <mailto:@britechguy>
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*Subject: *Re: [nvda] controling the mouse?

There is also the Golden Cursor add-on
<>. Other
members who use this on a regular basis can comment much better on its
actual use than I can.

/I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I
need to respect in any way./

~ */Ellen Evans/***/, /soc.motss/, /11/6/2004

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