Re: controling the mouse?

David Moore

Thank you so much.

I hope they do. I access apps that cannot be accessed with key commands at all. I use NVDA and the Golden Cursor add on to move and save mouse positions. This is powerful stuff. Have a great one.

David Moore

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From: Jacques
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] controling the mouse?


Excellent post David. Those who haven't been using Golden Cursor up till

now are sure to consider installing this add-on.





On 02 Feb 2017 07:50, David Moore wrote:

> Hi,

> I find the golden cursor the most exciting NVDA add on, and here is

> exactly why. First of all, You can press a key command, and Golden

> cursor will tell you in pixels where the mouse pointer is on the screen.

> Left side is 0 in the X direction, and top is 0 in the y direction of

> the pointer. Golden Cursor gives you the pointer position in the X,

> first, then the Y. So, if Golden cursor says 34 748, then you know that

> the pointer is only 34 pixels from the left of the screen, and it is all

> of the way at the bottom of the screen 748 pixels from the top. Now, the

> default of the computer screen with win10 is: 1366 pixels from left to

> right, and 768 pixels from top to bottom. Now, the next best thing about

> the Golden cursor, is that you can save a mouse pointer position so that

> the pointer will go right to that spot. It is like setting a book mark

> for the mouse pointer. You just press the command, and put in the X

> number, and Y number, altogether without a space, and then space and

> describe what that position is,like a very important button in an app,

> for example. From now on, you can press a command that gives you a list

> of all saved positions, and you can just enter on the one you want, and

> the mouse pointer goes right to that spot. That is very powerful. Also,

> the Golden cursor add on allows you to move the mouse pointer with your

> arrow keys by so many pixels each time you press an arrow key. For

> example, you can set Golden cursor to move ten pixels to the right each

> time you press the right arrow. You just hold down the windows+NVDA as

> you press the arrow keys. That is very powerful, because you can move

> the pointer completely straight in a line up, down, right, or left. I

> have memorized many pixel positions of things on the computer screen

> because of Golden cursor. For example, the position of the start button

> is 24 pixels to the left, and 748 pixels to the bottom. So, in other

> words, the start button is in the very bottom left hand corner of the

> screen. The desktop icons, are in the top left half of the screen. You

> can press windows+NVDA+P to hear the position of the pointer by routing

> it to the review cursor on any object. Now, the review cursor moves with

> the system carrot, so you can simply go to a desktop icon, and press

> Windows+NVDA+P on any desktop icon, and hear the pixel position of that

> icon. You can then save that position, and then, you can later open the

> list of saved positions and enter on that position, and the mouse

> pointer will go right there. You can do this on the desktop with key

> commands, I know. But, what about places in programs where you cannot

> access a control any other way except for the mouse? This is where the

> golden cursor becomes the most important add on, I believe. You can have

> a sighted person put the mouse pointer on a spot, you can press

> Windows+NVDA+P and hear the pixel position of where a sighted person has

> put the mouse pointer. Now, you can save that position with Golden

> cursor. Then, you can go to that position from now on, without sighted

> help even if you are totally blind. That is how powerful the Golden

> cursor is. There is even more it does. Now, with NVDA itself, without

> the Golden cursor add on, you can still do a lot with the mouse. If you

> go to the preferences menu and go to the mouse settings, you can Turn on

> play beeps as you move the mouse pointer, either with a mouse, or on

> your mouse pad on a laptop. For example, as I move my finger over my

> touch pad on my laptop, with stereo head phones on, as I move the mouse

> pointer left, the sound comes more and more out of the left head phone.

> Moving it to the right does the opposite. If I move the pointer up, the

> tone gets higher in pitch. Moving it down, makes the tones go down in

> pitch. So, for example, If I hear a low pitch coming more from the right

> head phone, that means that the pointer is at the bottom of the screen

> more to the right side of the screen. That can tell you a lot right

> there. Also, NVDA tells you the text that the pointer is moving over.

> For example, if I am moving my finger, and I hear News app, I can click

> my touch pad, just like a sighted person would, to open the News App.

> Now, with the Golden cursor, I have the position of the pointer saved

> where my News App is, so I can move the pointer right there, click just

> like a sighted person, and the news app opens, and I can read the news

> with the mouse pointer. I can access many apps with the Golden cursor

> add on and moving the mouse pointer around the app. I hope that there

> are blind users that are interested in just how much you can do with the

> mouse, even if you are totally blind. I want to get people excited about

> this. The mouse is not just for the sighted. There are places in apps,

> that are used on the job, that only the mouse pointer can get to, and it

> is possible to use Golden Cursor to save the pointer position for that

> spot, and move the pointer to that spot, even if you are totally blind.

> I would like to talk to the developer of the Golden cursor about keeping

> it up and going, because I use it all the time, to access places in apps

> that cannot be accessed any other way.

> I hope this helps some of your and everyone's questions about this topic.

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail <> for

> Windows 10

> *From: *Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>

> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:08 PM

> *To: * <>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] controling the mouse?

> There is also the Golden Cursor add-on

> <>.  Other

> members who use this on a regular basis can comment much better on its

> actual use than I can.

> --

> */Brian/*

>    /I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I

> need to respect in any way./

>         ~ */Ellen Evans/***/, /soc.motss/, /11/6/2004





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