Re: new to windows, need help with software selections


When I've looked at instructions for two or three programs, they tell you that you can often remove the program using Add/Remove programs.  This or that program may not like traces of another program that may be left in this way but I've only heard of one such program and I've uninstalled and installed four or five antivirus programs with no conflicts.  My impression is that oftenb tools require the user to do something that requires sighted help such as fill in a captcha.  I try the easiest possibility first. 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

In the past whenever I'm removing an anti virus program I first search
for a removal tool for the specific virus program. This way you'll have
no conflicts with new virus software.

On 2/14/2017 9:04 PM, Gene wrote:
> To uninstall Avast, use JAWS, you can use a JAWS demo.  then uninstall
> it from programs and features.  Clidck the remove button with the space
> bar.  When you do so dialogs will come up or something like dialogs.
> they won't be quite like dialogs because they will be the Avast
> installer.  Tab through them and see what you want to do.  I'm not sure
> just what you will find or if you will come across anything you might
> need help with because of not being spoken.
> Also, get the unchecky utility.  It doesn't know about all unwanted
> programs installed with a lot of free software but it will alert you to
> a good deal and allow you to avoid the installation.  You may not have
> an accessible way to avoid such installations so uncheckie is more
> important to blind users.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* coffeekingms@... <mailto:coffeekingms@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:51 PM
> *To:* <>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections
> hi
> Thanks for all your suggestions. I just installed the cdex software
> using the link you provided. As a warning to all of you, if you do
> install this software, you might need sighted help to uncheck the option
> to install recommended software, because there seems to be no accssible
> way to decline it. If you do install the cd ripper as it wants, you'll
> get the following additional software
> avast antivirus
> bite fence antimalware
> chromium
> advanced pc care
> stack player
> and your homepage will be set to yahoo web search in your default
> browser. I'm still puzzling over how to remove avast, since I can't seem
> to click or simulate a left click on the  uninstall button, NVDA can't
> seem to route the mouse pointer to the  uninstall button using the caps
> lock plus kp devide shortcut, but the others were easily removed.
> Despite all of this, I like cdex. I don't like the sneaky bundling of
> software, and I'm rather shocked that open source software would stoop
> to such a tactic. I'm not  annoyed at anyone hear though, I want to make
> that clear but at the extra installations. I am going to install chrome
> and try it out, since I did like chromium in the few minutes I played
> around with it.
> Thanks
> Kendell Clark
> On 2/14/2017 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
>> Hi Kendell,
>> Welcome to Windows, and to the NVDA list!
>> CDex is a popular CD ripper:  It looks up freedb and
>> others (you can set the one you want).  I must admit I always just rip
>> to MP3 so I haven't looked into other formats with it.  Just looking
>> at the features, you can set it to use OGG, FLAC, AAC, WMA and other
>> formats.
>> I'm not as familiar with downloading videos, or torrent programs I'm
>> afraid.
>> I tend to steer clear of driver downloaders - you just don't know what
>> they are downloading and I think most of them cause more problems than
>> they solve.  Mostly I let Windows manage drivers and it does do this a
>> lot more autonomously than it used to.  Sometimes it is worth double
>> checking you are using the manufacturer's driver, though, particularly
>> for audio and video drivers and in that case, I usually go to the
>> manufacturer's website.
>> I'm not sure about that file error you're getting.  AMD will be your
>> processor and sys means it's a system file, possibly a driver, as you
>> seem to have guessed, but beyond that, I'm not sure.  Is anything
>> happening immediately prior to it crashing?  I did a google search on
>> the filename and got nothing (5 unrelated results) so whatever it is,
>> it's evidently not overly common.
>> Speaking of the Chrome browser, you'll actually find that it works
>> fairly well with NVDA if you do choose to install it.  The popular
>> browser with NVDA has traditionally been Firefox, but it can be worth
>> keeping Chrome around just for the odd website that works better with
>> one than the other.  Internet Explorer still works and still comes
>> with Windows, even Windows 10.  If you are on Windows 10, we do
>> support the new browser "Edge", though personally, I'd still stick
>> with one of the others for the most part.
>> If you are after a word processor that isn't Microsoft Office (MS
>> Office works well with NVDA, but you asked about free), Jarte is a
>> standalone one:  otherwise, LibreOffice is a
>> full office suite:
>> If you used Audacity for audio editing on Linux, you'll find it is
>> available for Windows as well:
>> I can't think of what else to recommend off the top of my head, but
>> all the best with your migration and do let us know if you encounter
>> anything else you need help or a recommendation on.
>> Kind regards
>> Quentin.
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM, coffeekingms@...
>> <mailto:coffeekingms@...> <coffeekingms@...
>> <mailto:coffeekingms@...>> wrote:
>>     hi all
>>     I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux,
>>     specifically sonar gnu linux,  to windows 10 full time. There are many
>>     reasons why  and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong
>>     list,
>>     but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less
>>     prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what
>>     speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could
>>     point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible,
>>     software
>>     to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide
>>     a list.
>>     A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and
>>     if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's,
>>     since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could
>>     rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't
>>     care for
>>     mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything.
>>     Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if
>>     possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video
>>     and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to
>>     manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3,
>>     m4b, etc
>>     files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format
>>     factory
>>     and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle
>>     opus so I
>>     may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc
>>     software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and
>> <>? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd
>>     like to start, assuming
>>     spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent
>>     software.
>>     I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very
>>     accessible.
>>     I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such.
>>     Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's
>>     torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as
>>     vinux and
>>     fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If
>>     these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck
>>     screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free
>>     driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it.
>>     Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be
>>     nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't
>>     want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my
>>     own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that
>>     say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes
>>     with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to
>>     pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install
>>     extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are
>>     there
>>     good ways of avoiding these kinds  of things? I'm new to windows after
>>     being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time
>>     windows
>>     user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help
>>     again.
>>     Thanks
>>     Kendell Clark
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