Re: problem reading mail
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Gene
It's not a question of bait. You didn't say
clearly that you were expressing your opinion. You didn't indicate that
many people are using the later version. If you had said something like, I
don't use the later version because I don't like ribbons, that would have been
one thing. If you had said that many blind people use the program but you
don't for this or that reason, that would have been a fair statement. But
your statement could far too easily be misinterpreted as saying that the later
version is unuseable. If you make such ambiguous statements, then I
comment on them because you are writing in such a way that many people may
interpret what you say as a general statement that the program is
unuseable. Just saying the phrase "to me" and then saying that a program
is unuseable because it has ribbons is too easy to be misinterpreted unless you
are more clear in your explanation of what you mean.
And while many blind people don't like ribbons,
many blind people use ribbons regularly and use the new version of the
program.
I don't care which version people use. I care
about statements that are easily misinterpreted and that may cause people
considering what program and version to use to believe that a program is
unuseable when that is far from the case.
Gene
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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem reading mail view amongst blind users of windows. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] problem reading mail What do you mean the only useable one. You mean the only one you liked because you hate ribbons. That is different than the only useable one. The later version is perfectly useable. If you are willing to use ribbons, it is just as useable as the old version. Microsoft doesn't provide the installer for the old version any longer but the full installer for the old version is available from individuals who have it. I have it and I expect other list members have it as well. Outlook Express in the version that has been modified to work in Windows 7 and higher works well for some people and not for others. Gene ----- Original Message ----- Gene----- Original Message ----- ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian's Mail list account Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:29 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] problem reading mail I think it happens on Windows Live mail but there are a number of different versions knocking around. To me the only usable one was the version using old style menus, which microsoft now seems to have removed as a download and the version is always asking to update or to go over tto the latest app. I don't think the app in 10 has support for Usenet so I'm loathe to do that change, and in any case Outlook express with the files that emulate the old html etc displays of xp seems to owork well and I do not begrudge the 20 Eu it costs for three keys at all as the guy is very helpful. This will do me for years unless nobody does pop3 email any more. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] problem reading mail > Hi Gary, > > I must admit I haven't been using the mail app much. I just had a look > and > found a couple of times it opened the message and I had to press NVDA+down > arrow to read, but most time (even on the same messages), it read fine. > > Would love to get some more info if anyone else is experiencing this (or > not) and particularly if anyone can better pin down exactly when it does > and doesn't read automatically? > > Regards > > Quentin. > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 6:13 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I just updated to nvda 2017.rc1. I am using wlm as my mail client. It >> used to be when I open a message I would hit the up arrow key and nvda >> would start reading the message. Now, I have to hit the key for it to >> read >> the message. Also I hear the word pane is this the way it will be? >> Thanks >> for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox >> >> >> > > > -- > Quentin Christensen > Training Material Developer > Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: > http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ > > Ph +61 7 3149 3306 > www.nvaccess.org > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess > Twitter: @NVAccess >
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