I agree. I agree. I also think NVDA needs to do work with web browsing.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



Agreed here completely. This should be a core NVDA function, and not only
available by installing an add-on. But this has been hashed out before, with
NVDA developers ignoring the desires of some of us users.

Travis

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From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:29 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



That isn't the reason and that argument is irrelevant. The system tray
wasn't accessible years ago through Windows. There needed to be a
screen-reader dialog to provide access. That's how the whole separate
access got started and System Access uses the same command. Window-eyes
uses a different command but it too provides a system tray dialog.



There are times, like it or not, when the dialog works better than using the
Windows access method and it should be provided as a part of screen-readers.




Sometimes, I get access to something using the Windows method when the
dialog doesn't work properly and at other times, I have found the only way
I've gotten access to an item is by using the dialog. These instances where
one or the other method doesn't work are rare but the argument that the
screen-reader dialog method is nothing but duplication is not correct.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Travis Siegel <mailto:tsiegel@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:21 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



Because NVDA is not jaws, and there's no reason to make it mirror jaws
keystrokes. The windows-b keystroke will work no matter what you use for a
screen reader, since it's a windows command. That's why NVDA uses it.
There is no dedicated NVDA keystroke for this function.





On 2/23/2017 8:36 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, I don’t know if I can say here! When you go to your system trey. Why not
make future builds of NVDA be insert F 11? Instead of windows B.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien
Sykes-Lindley
Sent: February-23-17 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



Hi Gene,

Hotkeys are indeed excellent. One of the first thing I look for in a program
is hotkeys. In fact, some have so many that it’s hard to memorise all of
them. But at least they’re there!

The only problem I have with Windows shortcuts being linked to them is that,
because they are global throughout the whole system, it can unfortunately
cause conflicts with other running applications that utilise those
shortcuts. For instance, I could assign a ctrl+alt+q shortcut to launch QWS
(a MIDI sequencer), and another application may use ctrl+alt+q to mean quit.
I have known ctrl+alt+o for options, ctrl+alt+x for exit, ctrl+alt+n/p for
next/previous, all of which can be assigned to a Windows hotkey, and then
it’s touch and go as to which item activates. Otherwise, I’m definitely all
for hotkeys!

As an aside, I must admit I do find it odd, and mildly frustrating that
there are four modifier keys that can be used to register hotkeys and yet it
is still possible to run out of logical keys! This is even more so for
global shortcut-linked ones, since I think you can only have ctrl+alt and
ctrl+shift combos. Possibly if you’re extremely dextrous you might be able
to have ctrl+shift+alt, I haven’t dared to try that one. Lol.

First letter navigation. Now you mention it I am aware of it. I use it all
the time to move quickly to files in Explorer. But for some reason it didn’t
cross my mind for the desktop (even though I know that is also controlled by
explorer). I guess because my explorer is in detail view, and the desktop
shows as a sort of grid layout I treated them as two separate systems.
Strange how brains work!

Cheers.
Damien.





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