Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

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That does not solve the issue though. In the main, most of the older hacks were just that, hacks and cause instability.
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From: "Isaac" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

just remove all of the files related to eloquence in the codefactory addon, and use the you know the other one
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From: Simon Jaeger
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

The way I see it, code factory's eloquence uses the same Eloquence DLL with the same product; it just does it in a more hacky and less reliable way. So if you pay for code factory Eloquence, you've legally licensed your copy; and if you use the unofficial Eloquence, you have stability and you can honestly say you've paid for it. I'm sure that's not how the law sees it, but it's just my thoughts. I personally find that the code factory one is less reliable as well.

On 2017-03-12 11:49, David Griffith wrote:

I am sorry you have problems with Jaws also. Jaws 18 is fine for me at this end.

There is a known issue with Code Factory Eloquence with NVDA.

I have seen several complaints from NVDA users on other lists than this which complain of the extreme delay with NVDA loading with Code Factory Eloquence. This caused some to recommend using the illegal NVDA Eloquence addon as an alternative which drew an angry response from the person retailing Code Factory Eloquence in this country.

If was from this person retailing the Code Factory product in this country that I learnt the tip of amending sound properties in the Control Panel as a partial solution to the slow loading. He in turn had got this advice from Code Factry as I understand it.

Presumably as not all people have the same configurations in their Sound Control Panel applet the experience of people experiencing this delay may well vary.

David Griffith

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From: matthew dyer
Sent: 12 March 2017 18:27
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.


Using jfw 18 with elequence, I have this problem sop I don't think this is an NVDA problem. JMT.


On 03/12/2017 06:42 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Yes I have had this issue of extreme delayed start up along with the additional issue of NVDA and eloquence freezing in large File Explorer windows.

This does not happen with the illegal versions of Eloquence which is disappointing from a a Code Factory quality point of view.

I managed to improve matters to some degree by going into the Sound Properties in Windows Control Panel, selecting my default sound device and turning off all the fancy affects like surround sound and just selecting just basic stereo as my output format.

This has had the affect of slightly diminishing the funkier music output from my PC but I am not now waiting upt to a minute or more for NVDA to load.

I still get the problem of NVDA not responding with large file explorer windows but what I have learnt is that if you turn Narrator on with Windows Enter temporarily you can navigate your file lists fine until NVDA wakes up and starts responding again. I just turn Narrator off when NVDA finally catches up.

David Griffith

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From: Darrell Shandrow Hilliker
Sent: 12 March 2017 10:16
Subject: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

Hello Everyone,

I am experiencing a significant delay after launching NVDA with Code Factory’s Eloquence implementation selected as the speech synthesizer.

I am running on Windows 10.

Does anyone else experience this issue and, if so, what steps have resolved this issue?



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