Brian, Brian and others,
Brian V: what Brian S is looking for is a way for NVDA to
announce names of updates as they are being downloaded.
Brian S: so you are saying that, in Windows 7, NVDA somehow
announces names of updates as it is being downloaded? My
experience does not confirm this, as in when I run my
Windows 7 VM for testing, I don’t hear NVDA announce names
of updates as they are being downloaded. Nor does Narrator
announce names of updates when they are being downloaded in
Windows 10. If you do have justifications, let me know so I
can consider them, and I will also weigh in user experience
consistency when deciding if it is something I need to
research this summer.
(WinTenApps add-on author)
Yes I do want updates to be announced as they come in asI
get updates when Icheck for them and I wait until I know that
they have been successfully installed or not and there is no
reason that this can't be done but you just don't care. This
is the second request that I have made and I got the same
response. The first request was for an add on for ie to read
the percentages when downloading and now this request for an
add on to announce every update as it comes in. The clear
reality here is if the developers of nvda don't want somthing
in nvda it's just not going to happen. It's not about it's
about the en users of your product nvda. If you truly did
care about the users of nvda then you would make theese 2 add
ons that I have requested. There is no such as it can't be
done that only says that you just don't want to do it. The
developers and the add on community does not really care at
all about the requests of the users of nvda because the profe
is in the poodding.
On 4/12/2017 6:21 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I can see. I cannot see what updates I will get
until the list has populated, usually one by one. Yes, I
can see what's coming in before the install begins, but what
does that matter because you can't stop it.
If you want to know what's being installed then
you need to constantly go and trigger a Check for Updates
and wait for the first to begin either downloading or
installing (depending on the sizes involved) and review the
It's essentially no different than what the
sighted get except that you need to wait for the auditory
cue that the updates have begun downloading or installing.
Things have changed in Windows 10 and the vast
majority of users, including myself, have no idea of what's
being installed until after the fact because Windows Update
has changed significantly and by design keeps the process as
"set it and forget it" as possible.
I don't know what you think that the add-on
should do unless you want it to lock up your processing by
watching and waiting for each update name to be populated in
the list, which is not always quick.
If you want to know what's coming in you can
wait and listen using NVDA, rather than look, as the sighted
world has to do but with sight. No screen reader is
telepathic about how a dynamic list might populate until
it's done populating.
The real art of
conversation is not only to say the right thing in the
right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the
~ Dorothy Nevill