Re: prevent pages from refreshing


Gene
 

I don't know and someone else may discuss it.
 
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing

Thanks for that. Now! have you any idea as to why the Adobe flash plugin crashes on the BBC website. The plugin is up-to-date and doesn’t crash on any other radio station site that I listen to which uses flash.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
That could be the same feature in Firefox that causes files to play if they are podcasts instead of offering you the download option but I'm not sure.  This may not help but in Firefox, if you right click the link, there is an item that says copy link location.  It will place the link in the clipboard.  Other browsers may have the same item though the wording may be different. 
If it is a direct link to the actual stream, you can try using it in Winamp.  Do you know the command in Winamp for open URL. It's shift l.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
I know the site in question is using flash, but what I am refering to is where there is a link to an mp3 stream, rather than a download, it plays in the firefox player. I can’t recall in which version of firefox this changed, but everything that was not flash used to play in winamp which is my player of choice.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
I'm not sure what you mean.  This is a Flash stream.  It isn't a Firefox player.  You aren't supposed to be able to select a player such as Winamp or some other stand alone player.  The Flash Player is intended by the site to be used.  Flash content is actually originally some other format and if you can find the original link, you may then be able to play it in another player such as Winamp because the original source is not Flash.  But I don't know how many sites you might find such a link for nor what the procedure is to find the original source link.. 
 
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
I went to the link in the original e-mail and using firefox 45.1 it seems to be ok. I wish someone could tell me how I can get audio files to play in my player of choice rather than the firefox player.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
Chrome won't load the page.  The following message results when I press the details button.  I may try testing the site again with a very recent version of Firefox.
The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4, which is no longer considered secure.
 
Gene
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From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
The older version of Firefox I used was using Flash.  I'm not sure what the almost current version of Firefox would have used.  I may try the site with Chrome as well but I haven't yet.
 
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 

A question for you. Were you using flash on that page, or their native html5 player? I"m not sure if there is a way, other than uninstalling flash, to get at the html5 player.

 

 


On 3/29/2016 12:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I tested the page in a recent version of firefox and for some reason, on the one test I did, the page didn't load properly.  When I tested it in a much older version of Firefox, the page loaded, a musicc stream played automatically, and I was able to read the stream without loosing my place.  I don't know if anything refreshed on the page.  But I read for perhaps a minute or one and one half minutes without problems.  The question is, why do people report different results.  The answer might be helpful in working on the problem.  Whatever the case, a feature for freezing the page, as has been suggested, might be useful.  Very few list members have commented on their experiences with specific pages that have been sent to the list by members.  It might be useful to have many responses from people testing these pages.
 
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
An example of a page that refeshes is www.jewishmusicstream.com. It's crazy.




On 3/29/2016 10:44 AM, Pete wrote:
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>   I am not sure why and how either.  Some of the building supply
> stores do some thing similar just not as fast of a refresh.
>   Pete
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> On 3/27/2016 7:24 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
>> That's exactly what I mean Pete. I'm not geek so I can't explain what
>> this is to the DEV's.
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>> On 3/27/2016 8:26 AM, Pete wrote:
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>>>   I know this happens, I haven't come across it for some time now.
>>>   What you are talking about is
>>>   you will be reading a block of text and you will only get a few
>>> seconds to read it before the page refreshes and every thing goes
>>> wonky.
>>>   rite?
>>>   I think if we could all work on a consistent description of what
>>> exactly the problem is it would be easier for the dev people to nail
>>> it down.
>>>   Pete
>>>
>>> On 3/26/2016 4:43 PM, Mallard wrote:
>>>> Now then,
>>>>
>>>> The issue exists, because there are forums discussing it for devs.
>>>> They call the thing "Carousels" or "slideshows", or something else
>>>> that I can't remember now.
>>>>
>>>> I provided an example of a site
>>>>
>>>> www.esselungaacasa.it
>>>>
>>>> But I'm afraid you ahve to log in with username and password to see
>>>> that particular area of the sit.
>>>> Actually, "that particular area" is supposed to be in the
>>>> Accessible section of the site, and it's the whole Supermarket area...
>>>>
>>>> Firefox 45.0.1, Latest NvDA Next Snapshot, Espeak, Freedom
>>>> Scientific's pm 40 3.70 braille display.
>>>> Ollie
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>>>> Il 26/03/2016 20:36, Lino Morales ha scritto:
>>>>> Kevin here is one. If any of you are fans of Rick Dees and the
>>>>> Weekly Top 40 his site refreshes a lot.
>>>>> www.rick.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/26/2016 3:34 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>>>> Can someone please provide examples of thes type of sites?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 12:30 PM Arno Schuh
>>>>>> <arno.schuh@...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Am Samstag, 26. März 2016 17:40 schrieb Gene
>>>>>> <gsasner@...>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     > Are you referring to the setting concerning metarefresh in
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>>     > Explorer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     That's the option. But it is pretty cumbersome to activate and
>>>>>>     deactivate
>>>>>>     this option anytime you came across such a site.
>>>>>>     In Cobra you simply press letter s to freeze the site, and
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>     press
>>>>>>     letter s again to set it free again.
>>>>>>     And of course it is no solution to keep the metarefresh option
>>>>>>     deactivated,
>>>>>>     because if so some sites don't work properly; i. e. you can't
>>>>>> log
>>>>>>     in some
>>>>>>     site, can't select list items in a list etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     So a simple feature like in Cobra would be pretty helpful when
>>>>>>     you came
>>>>>>     across such a site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yours sincerely
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Arno
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