Thanks a lot. I did not think of that. I will download a
portable version of Firefox, because I hardly want to solve
a Captscha. I need to seddle down. It has been a crazy
weekend, and I am getting too bold for my own good on lists
today. Thanks so much Gene, for that suggestion, because I
really do want to still use web visum, and you just showed
us how we can still do so. Have a great one.
You can use an older
version of Firefox portable on sites where you want to
use Webvisum and the current version of Firefox
everywhere else.
If you use a lot of sites
that require Webvisum, it may be more security risk than
you want to take. If, like many people, you don't use a
lot of such sites, you may consider the security risk of
using an older browser on a small number of sites to be
worth taking.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google
chrome a try [nvda] Performance degradation in current
Firefox
You can do absolutely nothing to get web visum to work after
Firefox 43.
That trick only works for version 43. After that, there is
nothing at all
one can do to get web visum to work in Firefox. Web Visum is
gone, so we
need to figure out something else Lol!
-----Original Message-----
From: P. Otter
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 8:24 AM
To:
nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
Performance
degradation in current Firefox
is ther any one who has the values to repair the webvisum
problems i don't
have it also anymore.
thanks inadvance.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mk360" <
mk.seventhson@...>
To: <
nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
Performance
degradation in current Firefox
> Webvisum works in the latest firefox, you need to
change some things on
>
about:config... I don't have the values now, but
someone posted the
> instructions on this (or in freelist) list,.
>
>
> El 02/04/2016 a las 20:32, David Moore escribió:
>> You know, I had that same problem. Ramola solved
captschas I never wanted
>> to be solved and took my money. Thanks for
reminding of that. I knew
>> there was some reason why I do not like Ramola! I
do not want to keep
>> disconnecting it and connecting it all the time
either. Is there any
>> other captscha solving service? Wev vism does not
work anymore in the
>> later versions of Firefox. Take care.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: P. Otter
>> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 5:22 PM
>> To:
nvda@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try
[nvda] Performance
>> degradation in current Firefox
>>
>> yes, that's true, what you say.
>> but on the other hand, when i browse to a site,
where is a capcha
>> available,
>> the capcha wil be processed byy rumola, even if you
don't need it at that
>> moment.
>> i think that is a problem, if i don't can disable
it until i need it.
>> or is that possible?
>> cheers
>> paul otter
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Moore"
>> <
jesusloves1966@...>
>> To: <
nvda@groups.io>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 10:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try
[nvda] Performance
>> degradation in current Firefox
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> You have to use Ramola captscha add on. You pay
95 cents to solve 150
>>> captschas and so on. Have a great one.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Mallard
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:02 AM
>>> To:
nvda@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a
try [nvda] Performance
>>> degradation in current Firefox
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> But what happens with Captcha solving in
Chrome?
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 02/04/2016 09:52, Nimer Jaber ha scritto:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am very happy to say that my issues at
least have been addressed, and
>>>> that browsing with Chrome and NVDA is the
best it has ever been.
>>>>
>>>> On 02-Apr-16 02:40, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>>> Please retry with latest build of
Chrome Canary... Accessibility
>>>>> improvements went in!
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:08 PM Nimer
Jaber <
nimerjaber1@...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find my answers below. I am
hoping that some of these
>>>>> issues are just the way that my
specific configuration is set up.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27-Mar-16 17:55, Chris Mullins
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nimer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a few questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I establish if you are
using Chrome or Canary?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Canary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is ChromeVox?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Chromevox is Google's screen
reading option that a user can
>>>>> enable while using Chrome or Chrome
OS.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the status of the
‘automatically run say all on page
>>>>>> load’ in the NVDA Browse mode
dialog?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Unchecked.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the status of the
‘automatic focus mode for focus
>>>>>> changes’ in the NVDA Browse
mode dialog?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Checked
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the status of the
‘automatic focus mode for caret
>>>>>> movement’ in the NVDA Browse
mode dialog?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Unchecked
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Chrome and Canary and
don’t get the same as you re
>>>>>> pressing tab to see the content
in either version of the browser
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The quick navigation keys
operate when you are in browse mode
>>>>>> and I’ve not had trouble with
them in standard web pages with
>>>>>> eiter browser but there is a
problem with them in the settings
>>>>>> page of Chrome but they seem to
work OK in the Canary settings
>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The chrome menu reads perfectly
in chrome but there are a couple
>>>>>> of gaps in the Canary version
after Zoom and Edit entries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Nimer Jaber
[
mailto:nimerjaber1@...]
>>>>>> *Sent:* 27 March 2016 22:37
>>>>>> *To:*
nvda@groups.io
<
mailto:nvda@groups.io>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: suggestion:
giving google chrome a try [nvda]
>>>>>> Performance degradation in
current Firefox
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, Chrome
accessibility has a bit of a ways to go. I
>>>>>> wish it didn't. I wish I could
reliably use Chrome without the
>>>>>> strangeness that persists, but
I can't. With Canary, some menu
>>>>>> items are not read out by NVDA,
but are by Chromevox. Others are
>>>>>> read out by NVDA and not by
Chromevox. I don't want two screen
>>>>>> reading packages running. When
navigating the web and going to a
>>>>>> new web page, I seem to have to
push tab after a new page loads,
>>>>>> otherwise NVDA doesn't seem to
see the content on the page. When
>>>>>> doing a search on the Google
page and when navigating around
>>>>>> Chrome in general, pressing H
to navigate by heading only works
>>>>>> sometimes, but sometimes locks
up until I again press tab to
>>>>>> force it to get back to the
content. The sign-in process in
>>>>>> Chrome does not work with NVDA.
I needed to use Window-eyes to
>>>>>> get it to read the content.
JAWS was also unable to read it. And
>>>>>> I will post another thread
about this, but Hangouts doesn't work
>>>>>> very well. the Hangouts app
seems to be totally inaccessible to
>>>>>> next branches of NVDA and
Canary. And the keyboard shortcuts
>>>>>> that Google outlines in their
manual at
>>>>>>
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3112005?rd=1
don't
>>>>>> work when navigating to
hangouts.google.com
>>>>>> <
http://hangouts.google.com>,
and the article doesn't specify
>>>>>> where exactly these shortcuts
are supposed to work. Actually
>>>>>> many hotkeys that Google
outlines interfere with
>>>>>> browser-specific hotkeys. So I
would be happy to transition to
>>>>>> using Chrome, as Firefox is
becoming awful, but that would mean
>>>>>> a huge loss of productivity for
me. So if you have been able to
>>>>>> get Chrome to work more
reliably, I am interested in which
>>>>>> version of Chrome and which
version of NVDA, as well as any
>>>>>> settings changes that you have
made for your specific set-up. If
>>>>>> this is localized to just me, I
am willing to do some
>>>>>> troubleshooting, but on three
computers Chrome's behavior seems
>>>>>> to be the same. About the only
improvement I have seen to Chrome
>>>>>> Canary is that NVDA reads out a
few additional menu items that
>>>>>> it wasn't reading before. I
might try resetting Chrome back to
>>>>>> default settings and removing
all plugins to see if that has any
>>>>>> effect, but this installation
of Chrome is pretty new, so I'm
>>>>>> not sure if that will help or
not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/27/2016 4:05 PM, Scott
VanDeWalle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey.
>>>>>> I've been using chrome now
for a couple of weeks now i
>>>>>> believe.
>>>>>> It is pretty good for the
most part.
>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/27/2016 9:20 AM, Peter
Beasley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My problem with Firefox
is that I am no longer able to
>>>>>> use the BBC iplayer.
Every time I try to listen to
>>>>>> something, I get a
message telling me that the Adobe
>>>>>> flash plugin has
crashed. This particular plugin is up
>>>>>> to date and I have been
having this problem since early
>>>>>> December. I know this
is not anNVDA issue but would be
>>>>>> greatful if anyone has
any ideas on how I can sort this
>>>>>> out. I have been using
Firefox as my primary browser now
>>>>>> for nearly 9 and a half
years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*mk360 <
mailto:mk.seventhson@...>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:*Sunday, March
27, 2016 1:31 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:*nvda@groups.io
<
mailto:nvda@groups.io>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:*Re: [nvda]
Performance degradation in current
>>>>>> Firefox
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've in firefox 45.0.1
and all is working fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El 27-03-2016 a las
8:46, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see no problem
with NVDA. I recommend you go onto
>>>>>> google and search
for
about:config that can help
>>>>>> improve firefox
performace and that pretty helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin Chao
於27/3/201610:13 寫 道:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of Chrome's
strengths is performance...I
>>>>>> experience 0%
lag with MVDA when interacting
>>>>>> with modern web
apps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 26,
2016 at 5:11 PM Supanut
>>>>>> Leepaisomboon
<
supanut2000@...>
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed
performance issues with Firefox as
>>>>>> well, but
not just with NVDA, but Jaws as
>>>>>> well,
especially on Facebook where the
>>>>>> browser
lags. Firefox seemed to perform
>>>>>> poorly on
my Surface 3, despite not having
>>>>>> any addons
installed.
>>>>>>
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