Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try Performance degradation in current Firefox


mk360
 

Yeah, is a good idea for the new versions.

El 03/04/2016 a las 18:45, David Moore escribió:
Hi Gene,
Thanks a lot. I did not think of that. I will download a portable version of Firefox, because I hardly want to solve a Captscha. I need to seddle down. It has been a crazy weekend, and I am getting too bold for my own good on lists today. Thanks so much Gene, for that suggestion, because I really do want to still use web visum, and you just showed us how we can still do so. Have a great one.
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance degradation in current Firefox
 
You can use an older version of Firefox portable on sites where you want to use Webvisum and the current version of Firefox everywhere else. 
 
If you use a lot of sites that require Webvisum, it may be more security risk than you want to take.  If, like many people, you don't use a lot of such sites, you may consider the security risk of using an older browser on a small number of sites to be worth taking. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance degradation in current Firefox
 
You can do absolutely nothing to get web visum to work after Firefox 43.
That trick only works for version 43. After that, there is nothing at all
one can do to get web visum to work in Firefox. Web Visum is gone, so we
need to figure out something else Lol!


-----Original Message-----
From: P. Otter
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 8:24 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox

is ther any one who has the values to repair the webvisum problems i don't
have it also anymore.
thanks inadvance.

----- Original Message -----
From: "mk360" <mk.seventhson@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox


> Webvisum works in the latest firefox, you need to change some things on
> about:config... I don't have the values now, but someone posted the
> instructions on this (or in freelist) list,.
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> El 02/04/2016 a las 20:32, David Moore escribió:
>> You know, I had that same problem. Ramola solved captschas I never wanted
>> to be solved and took my money. Thanks for reminding of that. I knew
>> there was some reason why I do not like Ramola! I do not want to keep
>> disconnecting it and connecting it all the time either. Is there any
>> other captscha solving service? Wev vism does not work anymore in the
>> later versions of Firefox. Take care.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: P. Otter
>> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 5:22 PM
>> To: nvda@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
>> degradation in current Firefox
>>
>> yes, that's true, what you say.
>> but on the other hand, when i browse to a site, where is a capcha
>> available,
>> the capcha wil be processed byy rumola, even if you don't need it at that
>> moment.
>> i think that is a problem, if i don't can disable it until i need it.
>> or is that possible?
>> cheers
>> paul otter
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Moore"
>> <jesusloves1966@...>
>> To: <nvda@groups.io>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 10:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
>> degradation in current Firefox
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> You have to use Ramola captscha add on. You pay 95 cents to solve 150
>>> captschas and so on. Have a great one.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Mallard
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:02 AM
>>> To: nvda@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
>>> degradation in current Firefox
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> But what happens with Captcha solving in Chrome?
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 02/04/2016 09:52, Nimer Jaber ha scritto:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am very happy to say that my issues at least have been addressed, and
>>>> that browsing with Chrome and NVDA is the best it has ever been.
>>>>
>>>> On 02-Apr-16 02:40, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>>> Please retry with latest build of Chrome Canary... Accessibility
>>>>> improvements went in!
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:08 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Please find my answers below. I am hoping that some of these
>>>>>     issues are just the way that my specific configuration is set up.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 27-Mar-16 17:55, Chris Mullins wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi Nimer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Just a few questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Can I establish if you  are using Chrome or Canary?
>>>>>>
>>>>>     Canary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     What is ChromeVox?
>>>>>>
>>>>>     Chromevox is Google's screen reading option that a user can
>>>>>     enable while using Chrome or Chrome OS.
>>>>>
>>>>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatically run say all on page
>>>>>>     load’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
>>>>>>
>>>>>     Unchecked.
>>>>>
>>>>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for focus
>>>>>>     changes’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
>>>>>>
>>>>>     Checked
>>>>>
>>>>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for caret
>>>>>>     movement’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
>>>>>>
>>>>>     Unchecked
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>     I have   Chrome and Canary and don’t get the same as you re
>>>>>>     pressing tab to see the content in either version of the browser
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     The quick navigation keys operate when you are in browse mode
>>>>>>     and I’ve not had trouble with them in standard web pages with
>>>>>>     eiter browser but there is a problem with them in the settings
>>>>>>     page of Chrome but they seem to work OK in the Canary settings
>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     The chrome menu reads perfectly in chrome but there are a couple
>>>>>>     of gaps in the Canary version after Zoom and Edit entries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *From:*Nimer Jaber [mailto:nimerjaber1@...]
>>>>>>     *Sent:* 27 March 2016 22:37
>>>>>>     *To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
>>>>>>     *Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
>>>>>>     Performance degradation in current Firefox
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Unfortunately, Chrome accessibility has a bit of a ways to go. I
>>>>>>     wish it didn't. I wish I could reliably use Chrome without the
>>>>>>     strangeness that persists, but I can't. With Canary, some menu
>>>>>>     items are not read out by NVDA, but are by Chromevox. Others are
>>>>>>     read out by NVDA and not by Chromevox. I don't want two screen
>>>>>>     reading packages running. When navigating the web and going to a
>>>>>>     new web page, I seem to have to push tab after a new page loads,
>>>>>>     otherwise NVDA doesn't seem to see the content on the page. When
>>>>>>     doing a search on the Google page and when navigating around
>>>>>>     Chrome in general, pressing H to navigate by heading only works
>>>>>>     sometimes, but sometimes locks up until I again press tab to
>>>>>>     force it to get back to the content. The sign-in process in
>>>>>>     Chrome does not work with NVDA. I needed to use Window-eyes to
>>>>>>     get it to read the content. JAWS was also unable to read it. And
>>>>>>     I will post another thread about this, but Hangouts doesn't work
>>>>>>     very well. the Hangouts app seems to be totally inaccessible to
>>>>>>     next branches of NVDA and Canary. And the keyboard shortcuts
>>>>>>     that Google outlines in their manual at
>>>>>> https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3112005?rd=1 don't
>>>>>>     work when navigating to hangouts.google.com
>>>>>>     <http://hangouts.google.com>, and the article doesn't specify
>>>>>>     where exactly these shortcuts are supposed to work. Actually
>>>>>>     many hotkeys that Google outlines interfere with
>>>>>>     browser-specific hotkeys. So I would be happy to transition to
>>>>>>     using Chrome, as Firefox is becoming awful, but that would mean
>>>>>>     a huge loss of productivity for me. So if you have been able to
>>>>>>     get Chrome to work more reliably, I am interested in which
>>>>>>     version of Chrome and which version of NVDA, as well as any
>>>>>>     settings changes that you have made for your specific set-up. If
>>>>>>     this is localized to just me, I am willing to do some
>>>>>>     troubleshooting, but on three computers Chrome's behavior seems
>>>>>>     to be the same. About the only improvement I have seen to Chrome
>>>>>>     Canary is that NVDA reads out a few additional menu items that
>>>>>>     it wasn't reading before. I might try resetting Chrome back to
>>>>>>     default settings and removing all plugins to see if that has any
>>>>>>     effect, but this installation of Chrome is pretty new, so I'm
>>>>>>     not sure if that will help or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 3/27/2016 4:05 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Hey.
>>>>>>         I've been using chrome now for a couple of weeks now i
>>>>>> believe.
>>>>>>         It is pretty good for the most part.
>>>>>>         hth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 3/27/2016 9:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             My problem with Firefox is that I am no longer able to
>>>>>>             use the BBC iplayer. Every time I try to listen to
>>>>>>             something, I get a message telling me that the Adobe
>>>>>>             flash plugin has crashed. This particular plugin is up
>>>>>>             to date and I have been having this problem since early
>>>>>>             December. I know this is not anNVDA issue but would be
>>>>>>             greatful if anyone has any ideas on how I can sort this
>>>>>>             out. I have been using Firefox as my primary browser now
>>>>>>             for nearly 9 and a half years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             *From:*mk360 <mailto:mk.seventhson@...>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             *Sent:*Sunday, March 27, 2016 1:31 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             *To:*nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             *Subject:*Re: [nvda] Performance degradation in current
>>>>>>             Firefox
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             I've in firefox 45.0.1 and all is working fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             El 27-03-2016 a las 8:46, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
>>>>>>             escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 I see no problem with NVDA. I recommend you go onto
>>>>>>                 google and search for about:config that can help
>>>>>>                 improve firefox performace and that pretty helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Kevin Chao 於27/3/201610:13 寫 道:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     One of Chrome's strengths is performance...I
>>>>>>                     experience 0% lag with MVDA when interacting
>>>>>>                     with modern web apps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:11 PM Supanut
>>>>>>                     Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         I noticed performance issues with Firefox as
>>>>>>                         well, but not just with NVDA, but Jaws as
>>>>>>                         well, especially on Facebook where the
>>>>>>                         browser lags. Firefox seemed to perform
>>>>>>                         poorly on my Surface 3, despite not having
>>>>>>                         any addons installed.
>>>>>>
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