Re: query


Gene
 

I should clarify that for general use, I don't know if it makes a difference if you use the laptop or desktop layout.  I haven't used the laptop layout so I can't compare them in general.  I have looked at some of the commands used in object navigation and in screen review.  I consider the desktop layout to be far superior in organization of those commands.  That's why I recommended the desktop layout. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

Hi gene

 

Sorry  first of all that I couldn’t reply to your email yesterday, I really appreciated your support and the instructions you have sent me.

 

Many thanks once again for your help,

 

Best regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 08 June 2017 19:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Since it has a numpad, it would be much better to use the desktop layout.  You were trying to use a laptop layout command for read current line. The desktop layout command is NVDA key up arrow.  Since you have a numpad, you will likely want to use the numpad insert in many cases for the NVDA key. 

But there are times when it is much easier and more pleasant to use the capslock as an NVDA key.  If you do, the command would be caps lock up arrow for speak current line. 

 

To enable the caps lock as an NVDA key do the following:

Open the keyboard settings dialog with the command control NVDA key k.  Since you don't have the capslock set as an NVDA key yet, use either insert.

Then tab to a check box that says use caps lock as NVDA key or similar wording.  Check it with the space bar. 

Then tab to and activate the ok button.

Now, you can have the current line spoken by holding the caps lock key and whild doing so press up arrow.  If a command is awkward or unpleasant using whatever insert you want to use, you can use the caps lock.  You can still use either insert but now you can use the caps lock as well, if you prefer.

 

Gene

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From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 9:36 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi gene

 

Yes my laptop has a numpad, the reason why I’m asking so many questions is because I just started to learn how to use the NVDA.

 

And I’m pretty sure that all of you have more experience than I have.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 08 June 2017 11:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

NVDA down arrow is read to end.  Does the laptop have a numpad?  The only reason to use the laptop layout is if the laptop doesn't have a numpad. 

 

If it were me, I'd probably buy a USB numpad and use the desktop layout.  I don't like laptop layouts in any screen-reader. 

 

I don't know where or how your are looking at commands but you appear to somehow be looking at them incorrectly.  Are you using the quick key reference in help>  In that reference, commands are given as desktop layout, then on the next line laptop, then touch gesture, if any. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi gene

 

Many thanks for your prompt reply, yes I guess as you said I have to change to laptop mode, 

 

To read the current line I use the NVDA key plus down arrow as you explained, but it keeps reading the whole page as well.

 

I hope you will be able to understand what I mean.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 08 June 2017 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

hi

 

how are you driving nvda on the computer and is your keyboard layout set to desktop or laptop? the default if i remember is desktop and can be changed under the keyboard settings in NVDA.

 

Are you arrowing down line by line with the down arrow key? or do you want it to read the current line? it is the nvda key + up arrow key to read the current line with a desktop.

 

I am also guessing in the document formatting section of nvda you have the following checked. for example line numbers checked. Uncheck it then tab down to the ok button then press the enter key. NVDA might have to be restarted for it to take affect. Then try it again.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 8/06/2017 8:01 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,


Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Devin Prater

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

 

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