Re: Clarification: last night's remarks, teaching style


Hello Joseph, I may be blasted for this but I feel I need to say something here in your behalf.
I for one think you are doing a very good job with the diversity of this list. There are beginners all the way to power
users of NVDA on this list and I think people need to think for themselves and be willing to try new things. I am a
beginner and have questioned a few posts to this list but when I go back and read over them a few times they make
perfect since.
I want to say that if it were not for those like you and the devs. of NVDA there would be no alternatives for people who can’t afford other screen readers.
My hat is off to you and all who make NVDA possible and I for one really thank you for your time and patience.
Thanks for reading this rant.

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:57 PM
Subject: [nvda] Clarification: last night's remarks, teaching style

Dear NVDA community:


I have received several remarks offlist regarding my comment to Rosemarie last night in regards to asking her what she has learned through the Mail app problem. I’ll take full responsibility of my remarks and tone, as a practical step, I’ll refrain from posting to this list for the rest of the week (and if I have offended folks, my sincere apologies).


As for teaching style I tend to employ: perhaps my remark from last night came as a result of my approach to teaching, which calls for students to have willingness to think, or at least, learn to think critically by asking tough questions, have willingness to fail in hopes of learning important lessons, and learn from mistakes. Perhaps this came as a result of my communication studies and argumentation training, being a member of the competitive speech and debate squad, things I’ve observed on various forums where people just believe whatever leaders say, or something else. My overall intention for asking Rosemarie to tell me what she has learned was to get her to think critically about what she has gone through, not just get a problem fixed. If I say I’m satisfied with the resolution of a problem, then this means no future preparations and applications through careful thinking. I personally believe in a community where not only people offer solutions, but also a venue where members can think critically, and I do know from a decade’s worth of experience on various forums that I’m thinking of an ideal community. One thing I personally would like to see is folks teaching novices not only the beauty of NVDA through solutions, but also fostering a sense of taking ownership of a product and thinking about it; in other words, I think it would be best to prepare willing novices for a time in the future where novices themselves would become power users and teach folks not only NVDA, but also to think carefully. Also, personally, I do not want our NVDA community to just be called “a community of users and developers of NVDA” – one thing that sets our community apart from others is unity, and I think it would be beneficial in the long run to add another title: thinking individuals.





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