Re: new key label I think


Some of you may not be aware of the fact that Steve is a dealer for
several screen readers in the UK who may apparently be using a
promotional technique commonly referred to as "card stacking," which
is used to knock down a competitor's product by pointing out any real
or imagined shortcomings in order to make your own seem better to the
consumer. While the uninformed may be fooled by this technique the
informed consumer who takes time to check into the product himself
without the added bias and rumor will simply make up their own mind
after looking at all the available information.

He is also doing this to NVDA on at least one UK list where people are
seriously considering moving from Window-Eyes to NVDA instead of JAWS.
Since he joined this list I can only imagine that his bottom line is
the reason.

One good thing about this "card stacking" technique is that it opens
up the door to actual improvement that could be made in NVDA so I say,
please continue Steve.

On 6/22/17, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:

While this is your choice, I must highlight that the average user
really doesn't really see these issues as standard. You, on the other
hand, might see them as essential, perhaps because you are coming from
a different screen reader. Undoubtedly, these features will be good. I
can say that the digits issue is being tested at the moment in
snapshots, but I assume will only give you the opportunity to choose
between digits and the current default, which is controlled by


On 6/22/17, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

Agreed. It will never be my primary screen reader, until more
is added.

The inability to switch off blank lines when cursoring, no key labelling,
the inability to switch numbers to digits or handled by synth, I could go
with this one. But no, it is simply not configurable enough by the
user yet.

All the best


From: [] On Behalf Of
Sent: 21 June 2017 19:49
Subject: Re: [nvda] new key label I think

I agree I’m also surprised in outlook2010 when you are arrowing throw
folders it doesn’t say NVDA 9 unread again a feature other screen readers
have. I also am surprised you can’t label buttons in a program or on
websites. NVDA is missing some very obvious things in my opinion. If
added these things it would probably be my primary screen reader.

From: [] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new key label I think


Surprising that something as basic as key labelling is missing though in
NVDA. All the other screen readers have it.

All the best


From: [] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 16 June 2017 17:46
Subject: Re: [nvda] new key label I think

NVDA says copied to clipboard in browse mode because Microsoft makes that
feature available. NVDA has done this for a long time. I don't know if
did in the early days but this has long been the behavior.


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From: Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>

Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 9:16 AM

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Subject: [nvda] new key label I think

Running latest released version of NVDA on a win 10 64 bit machine.
Just noticed that while in a browser, IE or Chrome or Firefox, when
selecting text and copying it to the clip board with control c NVDA now
says copied to clipboard. I don't think it did this in the past. still
no announcement of pasted from clipboard or cut to clipboard. Have I
totally lost it or is this something new and if it is new can we get
more such key labels added as well?

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