I'll give you my perspective as a blind user
who hasn't used a physical mouse. Perhaps some people will disagree, I
don't know. But my comments may help clarify matters or lead to more
I suspect that you are trying to use the mouse in
ways that are not intended by NVDA designers. For example, in all the
years I've been on this list, I've never heard of blind users using the scroll
wheel. I've heard of people moving around the screen with a mouse to get
the layout. If you want to use the mouse to get an idea of how a screen is
laid out, that can evidently be done. but NVDA is intended for blind users
primarily to be used from the keyboardwhen using browse mode. You are not
interacting with a web page directly when you use browse mode. You are
interacting with a reformatted version of the page in the MSAA or whatever it's
called now, buffer. The whole point is to move as though there is a cursor
using the keyboard. I've been told by a friend that sighted relatives and
readers can't use the Internet while her screen-reader is active because the
virtual PC cursor, the same thing as browse mode, makes usual ways of doing
things, such as scrolling, however it is attempted with a mouse, not work.
I've heard of numerous instances where blind people move around one screen, the
current one, when using a browser and a mouse. But that's very different
than scrolling. You could probably scroll if you turn off browse mode but
what's the point? You can't read as intended with a screen-reader if you
In other programs, such as Microsoft Word or
programs that don't use browse mode, I would imagine you could scroll. But
again, why? I've wondered now and then, if I've found a control I can't
work with on an Internet page from the keyboard if I could do so by using a
mouse to click on it. But that's completely different from scrolling and
trying somehow to read with a mouse.
One question is what it makes sense to do with a
physical mouse as a blind person and another question is technically, in browse
mode, what can you do not just with NVDA but with any screen-reader that uses
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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using physical mouse with
that would explain why iy
wasn't talking to me when I was trying to scroll down a page.
can you suggest
a rpogram that can let me scroll down using the mouse?
I am trying to get the
hang of using a mouse its totally forin to me.
also I am totally
On 7/19/2017 9:16 PM, Quentin Christensen
I can use the mouse wheel to scroll in Internet Explorer, at
least on Windows 10.
Do you mean have the mouse wheel move the focus for NVDA though? It
doesn't currently do that - what I can do is use the mouse wheel to smoothly
scroll the page visually.