You say they have description. Have you verified that they are both leading
to the same place by activating both? Or you can activate one, then go back
to the page you were on and see if both links now show as visited. If so,
your term "with description" is not correct and is confusing matters. It
isn't a description. In such cases, one link is an image link with no
information NVDA can read that helps the user understand what it is and the
other link has text that describes the same underlying link. But it isn't
one link with deescription. It is two separate links, a pair of links, that
both lead to the same place.

I don't particularly care about how NVDA handles such pairs of links, except
that I don't think it should read them together. I haven't seen any other
screen-reader do so and it is nonstandard behavior, if that is what is
occurring.
Gene

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 2:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading links with nvda: nvda developers and programmers
please help me!


yes.
i observed this behaviour unfortunately in many websites that have
links with discription.
this problem is not specific for this site.

On 7/21/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

it looks to me as though you may have found a bug in NVDA or improper
coding
on the web page. The first link is read but then you hear the word link
and
the link immediately after the first link is also read. If you move
manually to the next link, you hear the same thing. Why turning off link
announcement changes this behavior, I don't know. I doubt the behavior
changes on web pages in general. If you have seen the change to any
extent
other than on this web site, let us know.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 1:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading links with nvda: nvda developers and
programmers
please help me!


test with reporting links checked and unchecked.
for example: open this link using firefox.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1268544

press h many times to go to the headings and find comment1.
press k when reporting links is activated.
you hear link number and its discription.
while the link which i sent is open, unchecked reporting links.
do the steps which i mentioned and press k after finding comment1!
observed behaviour: nvda only says the number of link which is 1268544.
excepted behaviour: i wish that hear the discription of link after its
number like when reporting links is activated!
because i always checked report object discription and when i navigate
using k letter, i wish that hear the discription of links!

On 7/21/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Are you saying you don't hear anything but link on all links? I don't
know
what setting may cause the behavior you are describing if that is what
you
mean. But links often are essential parts of information. For example,
when you are reading an article, often names of people are links and at
times other parts of the actual text are links. If that is what you are
describing, that links are not read and that you only hear the word link
at
every link, you will have to change whatever setting you need to change
so
that the text of the link is read. You can hear the text without the
word
link being spoken.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 1:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading links with nvda: nvda developers and
programmers
please help me!


yes.
i deactivated javascript and only activate it when its necessary.
for example: when i cant write comment without it or sometimes in gmail.
for usual cases, i deactivate it.

i am not sure whether such links have image or not, but i am sure that
i dont recieve there discription when reporting links is not checked
and i use k for navigating between links.

On 7/21/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Do you mean things like image links where there is nothing but
underlying
code? I don't think there is any way to control what NVDA says in such
cases. There are links I hear as the word link and nothing else. I
have
always assumed that that means that there is nothing NVDA can recognize
or
read other than the underlying code of the link and I don't think NVDA
reads
html code in such cases.

If you turn off JAVA script support if you are worried about following
dangerous links, I think you will have cut the danger of being infected
by
dangerous links to either nothing or close to nothing. I'm no expert
on
security so I may be wrong but I have never been infected from a web
page
while having JAVA script support off and when I've read of how
malicious
web
sites infect machines, my impression is that it is through malicious
images,
I have automatically download images off or through JAVA script, which
I
have off unless I'm using a site I need support to use. Many sites
require
JAVA script but you'd be surprised, if your intent is just to do things
like
read articles, how many sites will allow you to do that with JAVA
script
support off. Also, I find most of the time that links that are just
read
as
the word link are unnecessary to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 12:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] reading links with nvda: nvda developers and
programmers
please help me!


hello every one.
in previous months, i posted that i wanted to nvda only says link when
i am navigating by links or at least navigating with arrow keys.
but i dont want to hear link in many lines which i read using sayAll!
some people suggested me trigger and i could not understand and it did
not work in the way that i want.
i decided to deactivate reporting links in document formatting.
but i only have one problem even in this way and i sincerely wish to
recieve helpful solution!
i also have report object discription in object presentation checked
to know all discriptions about different elements.
but when i navigating between links using k letter, nvda only says
only link and not its discription!
i wish that hear discription of links that accidentally dont open
unnecessary and even maybe dangerous links!
i realy sincerely pray for you and request divine infinite mercy for
you every day.
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org