erik burggraaf <erik@...>
Remembering passwords is
something of a security risk. Unfortunately, the various rules and
regulations around passwords mean you have too many passwords to remember
and they're frequently obscure. Also, it's common for people to have more
than one device. Some people even have three or four devices. Modern
browsers remember your passwords across devices, which is too hellishly
convenient for words.
Fortunately on Modern devices,
it is usually possible to attach your keychain to a fingerprint. When you
have to swipe your print in order to get your password entered, the
security risk is substantially reduced.
On
July 25, 2017 11:27:07 AM "Gene" <gsasner@...> wrote:
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I've seen different articles that advise against
having browsers remember passwords as a security risk.
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] KeePass
I've failed miserably to get Firefox to remember passwords. I'm
obviously not doing it right. Brian
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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent:
Tuesday,
July 25, 2017 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] KeePass
> There
are
a number of ways of keeping track of passwords: > - Most browsers will
offer to remember passwords for you. This may be > local, or on
the
cloud (If you log in to either FireFox or Chrome, I know > they can
remember your favourites / bookmarks across devices, and I think >
passwords as well). > - There are dedicated programs (such as Keepass)
which will keep your > passwords in one place, locally. > - There
are also dedicated programs that will keep your passwords online >
so > you can easily access them across devices > - Or you can keep
them manually (either in your head, on a notepad or > recorded by the PC
or on a file in say, notepad ON the PC). > > Which way you go
really
is personal choice. I prefer an option like > Keepass which keeps
the passwords locked up but in a local file, so it's > harder for anyone
who shouldn't to get access to it. Cloud based >
solutions >
have the benefit of easy access across devices, but as has already
been >
demonstrated, there is the potential for them to be hacked and then
you >
could potentially lose, or have to replace ALL your passwords (LastPass -
> a > cloud based password service, got hacked last
year). > > Using a password manager also has the benefit of being
able to generate > random passwords - and because they're being kept in
the program, they can > be easily made unique and complex for every
site. Using your browser is > convenient for a lot of people,
though
they often don't offer that > service, > you still have to
create a
password. > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:45 PM, nasrin khaksar
<nasrinkhaksar3@...> >
wrote: > >> hi travis and quentin. >> thanks so
much for
your comments. >> whats the different between password manager
programs
and usual way >> which we enter password manually? >> is it
possible for users that dont save any informations in there >>
browsers
to use such program? >> what does it do for us? >> thanks
again, God bless you and i sincerely pray for you every
day. >> >> On 7/25/17, Kwork <istherelife@...>
wrote: >> > Thank you, Quentin. That's one of the reasons I became
attracted to the >> idea >> > of it, that it's free and
open sourced. No, it doesn't use the cloud or >> > servers such as
LastPass and other competitors, but that's not >> >
foolproof >> > anyway as my LastPass account was hacked recently
based on a supposedly >> 100% >> > secure master
password,
and I spent a good day or two changing all my >> > passwords as a
result, and doing my best to convince Netflix that, no, >> >
I >> did >> > not live in Brazil, and that I did speak
English, not Spanish, and live >> in >> > the US. What a
mess. I'm just glad it wasn't more costly than that. >> >
Travis >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From:
Quentin Christensen >> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> >
Sent:
Monday, July 24, 2017 9:41 PM >> > Subject: Re: [nvda]
KeePass >> > >> > >> > As a bonus, Keepass
is free and open source, so you can try both and >> >
keep >> > whichever one you like. Note you can import
Keepass
1.x files into >> Keepass >> > 2.x but not the other way
around (as Keepass 2 has more features): >> > http://keepass.info/help/v2/version.html >>
> >> > >> > Regards >> > >>
>
Quentin. >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 25,
2017
at 2:32 PM, Kwork <istherelife@...>
wrote: >> > >> > Thank you Quentin. It
appears that v1 and v2 are a matter of user >> choice, >>
>
and that both are accessible enough. I'll take a look at both and >>
decide. V1 >> > might be enough as my needs are basic. >>
> Travis >> > ----- Original Message
----- >> > From: Quentin Christensen >>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:43 PM >>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] KeePass >> > >>
> >> > Hi Travis, >> > >>
> >> > I use KeePass version 1 and find it quite
good. There are a couple >> > of >> >
unlabelled
buttons. The main ones I use which aren't labelled are one >>
tab >> > after the first password field is "show password", and
the
one after >> > the >> > second password field is to
generate a password. Other than that, >> > everything works
fine with NVDA. >> > >> > >> >
Just reading through the documentation for you, it does say: " >>
> a.. [2.x] Accessibility: KeePass 2.x features an
advanced option >> > that >> > explicitly
optimizes the
user interface for screen readers." >> > >>
> >> > I initially chose V1 because I didn't
need any
of the extra features >> > in >> > V2: http://keepass.info/compare.html >>
> >> > >> > So it might be that V2 is
even more accessible, although in fact, V1 >> isn't >> >
that far off. >> > >> >
Regards >>
> >> > >> > Quentin. >>
> >> > >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at
8:32
AM, Kwork <istherelife@...>
wrote: >> > >> > It seems that
there was a recent discussion of KeePass on this >> >
list, >> but >> > don't remember for sure as we've been
dealing with moves and other >> personal >> > stuff, so
emails didn't always get kept or read. If I'm remembering >>
right, >> > how accessible is it with NVDA. I think I also
remember
reading >> > somewhere >> > that there are two active
releases of the program, a version 1 and a >> version >>
>
2. Is one better than the other for us? Thanks so much for any advice
>> > and >> > help. >>
> Travis >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > -- >>
> >> > Quentin Christensen >>
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> >> > >> > >> > >>
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