I would be interested in joining the group.
On Aug 18, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Nimer Jaber < nimerjaber1@...> wrote: Hello,
I will add anyone I see who has requested interest on this thread to the list. I will manage that sublist for now, but I am looking for someone who wishes to do it with me, or to take it over. If interested, let me know. Thanks.
Is this discuss about making, or joining a group to
learn programming base on NVDA? If so, please add me, or so me the address to
subscribe.
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Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 9:20
PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in
programming for NVDA
Hello,
Please add me too.
Best
Adriani
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Hi
Sally,
please add me as well,
cheers,
Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Donnerstag, 17. August 2017
19:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:
Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA
We will wait on a decision
for the NVDA group and I will compile interested people by next week.
Once those two things are
done, we can look at materials for learning.
Some things have already been
suggested on this thread and we can discuss more once we have our own space
that doesn't fill others inboxes.
Thanks again!
Sally
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
I have asked Gene if we can have a subgroup for beginning
devs.
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sally
Kiebdaj
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31
AM
sorry to respond only daily.
I
have a nice mix of private and public messages now which I am happy to
organize into a headcount.
As
I understand our purpose, we are people with little or no programming
background who want to learn programming through python. Some of us also
want to eventually work on NVDA--provided we learn python successfully.
We
are looking for some experience people to help coach. Some of the
experienced people have a programming background but are learning python
along with us and others have both programming and python experience.
To
sum up, we are mostly starting from an intro to computer science angle as
screen reader users who want to learn comp-sci through python and
eventually contribute to NVDA.
Once I had a list of interested parties, I was going to email
all to do a poll on how we want to communicate. google groups was going to
be my default but there are also forums or other shared workspaces that
might be easier for collaborative learning.
Although I do not have a programming background, I do have a
coordinating background and am happy to be the organizing engine unless
others strongly want to take this lead.
I
defer to Joseph and others if an NVDA list is appropriate for the scope
described above and will compile a list of people who have expressed
interest by next week. I'll share that list with whomever is in charge by
then, if it is not me.
Thanks all for the enthusiasm! It's good to get this idea off
the ground.
Cheers,
Sally
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:31 AM, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:
Is that we subscribe?
Hi,
I propose “beginningdevs” as the name of the subgroup, with
the complete email address being nvda+beginningdevs@groups.io with subject tag of
nvda-beginningdevs.
Cheers,
Joseph
I
see no reason that the list owner would object. Unless there is an
objection, I shall set up a new subgroup later today. I haven't
done this before and if I have any problems, I'll ask about them here
but I don't expect to have problems or not any problems I can't figure
out. What, Michael Lee, is your suggestion for a name for the
subgroup? I'm asking because I'm not sure just what its purpose
is, to teach Python or to teach python in a context of NVDA
development.
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Sent:
Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:39 AM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA
I
think a separate list is most apropriate. The developoment list
shouldn't be encumbered with questions from newbies
in programming.
That said, I am willing to act as a mentor for a separate
list.
John
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 09:02:59PM -0700,
Hector Elias wrote:
> Hi Joseph:
>
> Is that an
appropriate mailing list to conduct a discussion of learning Python? Or
should we create a separate list?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hector
> > On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Joseph Lee
<joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > The most appropriate list to join is
nvda-devel (hosted at SourceForge). I'm not qualified to create a
subgroup on this forum.
> > Cheers,
> > Joseph
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lenron
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:55 PM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] I
am interested in programming for NVDA
> >
> > I would
be up to joining this list as well. Alsways up for learning something
new.
> >
> > On 8/16/17, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
> >>
hi.
> >> i wish that learn python too.
> >> here
the email address of sally that you and james wanted.
> >>
Sally Kiebdaj<fiddle.pup@...>
> >>
>
>> On 8/17/17, Hector Elias <hmelias09@...> wrote:
> >>>
Correction I was able to find the e-mail, and I have e-mailed Sally
> >>> directly.
> >>>
>
>>> Hector
> >>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:58
PM, Hector Elias <hmelias09@...> wrote:
>
>>>>
> >>>> Hello:
>
>>>>
> >>>> I would be interested in
joining this group. I have some Python
> >>>>
experience, and will be taking a course at my community college in a
> >>>> few weeks. Syntax errors are usually caused
because there is an
> >>>> error when using the code.
I have seen those courses and I found
> >>>> that
sometimes they would not describe the syntax correctly; which
>
>>>> lead to miss typing the code. Python is case sensitive,
or you might
> >>>> have missed a certain punctuation
mark.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sally, your
e-mail doesn't show up on this thread. I only see the
>
>>>> mailing list address. Could you send us your
e-mail?
> >>>>
> >>>>
Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> hector
Elias
> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 12:52 PM, Sally
Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>
> >>>>>
wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello
all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>> Thank you for the copious advice!
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>> In the past, I tried MIT OpenCourseware and MITx
6.00 which are
> >>>>> both versions of their
introduction to computer science course
> >>>>>
taught in Python. I always ended up in the situation where
>
>>>>> following the directions keystroke for keystroke
generated a syntax
> >>>>> error and I had no one
to ask for help. This is what I want to
> >>>>>
avoid by having friends plugging away at it with me and experts on
> >>>>> hand for when we bog down.
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>> If others are interested in finding a book/course
and slogging
> >>>>> through it together, please
reply to me privately and I am happy to
> >>>>>
facilitate communication and coordination off list.
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>> I would also be happy to work through any future
NVDA specific
> >>>>> programming
tutorials.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, drop me a line if you would like to
plod through this in a
> >>>>> group with
me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>> Hope to hear from some of you on this
thread.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sally
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/13/2017
4:21 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >>>>>> You don't
have to learn python the hard way. What you need is a
>
>>>>>> tutorial that assumes no probramming experience
and no familiarity
> >>>>>> with programming
concepts. Manuals aren't it. They are for
>
>>>>>> programmers learning a new language. What is
needed is a turorial
> >>>>>> written by
someone who has experience teaching programming from
>
>>>>>> the ground up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> John
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 12:11:01PM
-0700, J.G wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
>
>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> as I
have written, beginners to programing should take a
>
>>>>>>> tutorials/manuals, which are simple and
explain python in plain
> >>>>>>> language
so it can be understandable for all of us. I suggest you:
>
>>>>>>> https://learnpythonthehardway.org/ (
>
>>>>>>> https://learnpythonthehardway.org/
>
>>>>>>> )
> >>>>>>>
there are books, which can help you self-teaching coding. these
>
>>>>>>> are divided in cca 50 section - exercises.
through them you can
> >>>>>>> begin to know
how to programing.
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> warning: if you really want to code, you
will have to train
> >>>>>>> yourself a
lot.
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> hope this helps and that in this post I was
clearer than in my
> >>>>>>> previous
message.
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> regards, Jožef
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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