Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
Of course it can be done. I've been programming for nearly 30 years, and have never used a braille display. The problem with white space sensitive languages like python is the shear amount of time spent verifying indentation. Often times, it takes as long to verify the indentation as it did to write the code in the first place, and that's just not an efficient use of time, which is why I try my level best to avoid programming in python and other languages like parallax's spin code, as it has the same requirement, though I got around that one by writing my own preproccessor that performs indentation for me, replacing C type braces with proper indentation. I suppose I could adapt that code for python, but that doesn't help when working with other people's code.
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Counting spaces isn't my idea of a fun time, but it is what it is, so I suppose I'll have to get used to using the NVDA indentation option, and hope it alleviates most of the hassle involved.
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Also, I'm of the opinion that many if not all programmers are using Braille displays or can see the screen with sufficient magnification. Is it actually possible to do this with just speech. I'm thinking of the strict syntax and tabs needed for Python to work.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott VanDeWalle" <scottvandewalle2@...>
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Request for comments: an outline of a complete course on NVDAinternals and code contributions
How do I get on that group or in that class? I’d be interested in giving programming another shot. Smile.
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From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] Request for comments: an outline of a complete course on NVDAinternals and code contributions
Those of you on the users list may have heard about a subgroup over there that aims to teach people how to contribute code to NVDA. After going over some membership intros and looking at skill sets represented, I came up with a rough outline or a six to twelve month course on NVDA code contributions and internals. Obviously most of the course content will require working knowledge of Python, but for those who lack this, I’ve included a one unit outline on Python.
• Title: So you want to improve NVDA with code contributions?
• Instructor: one or more NVDA experts and developers, along with several Python users as tutors
• Purpose: the overall purpose of this course is to equip new developers with knowledge required to provide code contributions to NVDA project. Topics covered include a short review of Python, running NVDA from source code, source code layout and overall architecture, behind the scenes tour of features and commands, as well as things required when contributing code such as identifying, designing, coding, debugging, testing, submitting, maintaining, and explaining new features, changes and bug fixes.
• Goals: have a working knowledge of Python so students can use it in NVDA and other projects; learn the overall purpose and architecture of NVDA; have knowledge of workings of features and commands through reading, understanding and writing source code; learn tips for becoming successful NVDA code contributors who serves the community and improves NVDA; develop critical problem solving and thinking skills required in today’s software engineering projects including that of NVDA.
Unit 0: Review of Python
1. Python is a general-purpose programming language
2. Downloading and using Python
3. Explain variables, how to import useful modules, conditionals and loops
4. Learn how to define functions.
5. Design classes and objects
6. Learn to interact with lists, dictionaries, sets, tuples and other objects of interest
7. Use modules and objects provided by Python to solve various problems
8. Exercise: random walk on a treadmill
9. Expected duration: four to six months
Skills test and preview 0: come up with solutions to two other problems via Python, write a design for an add-on, or write about how a student would solve an NVDA issue on GitHub.
Unit 1: Basics and the big picture
1. What screen readers are and are not
2. A portrait of operations of a screen reader
3. A brief history of NVDA
4. Obtaining NVDA source code
5. Compiling NVDA’s source code with dependencies
6. Running NVDA from source for the first time
7. Example of code contribution: command to restart NVDA with no prompts
8. Expected duration: one month
Skills test and preview 1: explain in your own words how you would teach your friend to download NVDA source code.
Unit 2: NVDA at a glance
1. Features overview
2. Source code layout
3. Overall architecture
4. Importance of objects, events, and modules
5. Extensibility through classes
6. Why accessibility API’s matter
7. Exercise: what is the code responsible for announcing speech via beeps?
8. Example of code contribution: Popping up browse mode window for some NVDA messages
9. Expected duration: two months
Skills test and preview 2: in your own words, describe ui.message function.
Unit 3: feature and command internals 1
1. Global commands
2. Focus, caret, system cursor
3. Object navigation, properties, developer information and object hierarchy
4. Accessibility API’s
5. Review cursor and text infos
6. Keyboard, mouse, and touchscreen
7. Basics of browse mode
8. Exercise: explain how NvDA+T command works to a new user
9. Example of code contribution: indentation announcement by tones
10. Expected duration: two to three months
Skills test and preview 3: in your own words, describe either one property of a navigator object or how a first letter navigation command works in browse mode.
Unit 4: Feature and command internals 2
1. App modules, global plugins and add-ons
2. Speech, braille, and tones
3. Synthesizers and braille displays
4. Math presentation layer and content recognition framework
5. NVDA dialogs, configuration management, and managing add-ons
6. Exercise: track down bugs in speech synthesizers
7. Example of code contribution: Unicode braille output
8. Expected duration: two months
Skills test and preview 4: in your own words, define what a speech synthesizer driver is.
Unit 5: Code contributions
1. Identifying issues and suggestions
2. Designing a problem and its solution(s)
3. Coding a solution
4. Debugging and testing solutions
5. Effective use of log viewer and Python Console
6. Submitting, maintaining, and explaining a feature, a change, or a bug fix
7. Exercise: not all warnings from the log are fatal
8. Example of code contribution: tab completion in Python Console
9. Expected duration: two to three months
Skills test and preview 5: write a solution for a minor issue on GitHub or a small add-on that uses any concept from previous units.
Unit 6: Beyond code contributions
3. Keep in touch with users and others in the community
4. Researching new ideas alone or in groups
5. Working on collaborative projects
6. Apply skills from NVDA to other projects
7. Exercise: write an article explaining inner workings of a community add-on
8. Example of code contribution: Liblouis project
9. Expected duration: one month
Unit 7 (advanced): thinking outside of NVDA
1. Windows API
2. Python libraries
3. Dependency checks
4. Using Component Object Model
5. Using advanced features of accessibility API’s
6. Adding new math presentation layers and content recognition frameworks
7. Troubleshooting braille input and output
8. Engaging with the wider python and programming communities
9. Ethical issues in code contributions
10. Things to think about when leading or working on an international software project
Final skills test:
1. From a set of problems dealing with Python, write solutions for two and provide an explanation for one of them.
2. Write an NVDA add-on that utilizes at least two concepts described in one or more units.
3. For a major NVDA GitHub issue, identify, design, code, debug, test, submit, maintain, and explain a solution.
I expect the minimum time to complete this course would be six months (excluding Python intros and advanced topics), with most people taking up to a year to master the concepts above and become comfortable while providing basic code contributions. The Python version to be employed will be a mixture of 2.7 and 3.6.
Comments are appreciated.