Re: Windows live mail question

Rosemarie Chavarria

Hi, Gene,
I didn’t know system access doesn’t read messages in plain text. As far as composing or replying to a message, hitting alt twice does accomplish the same thing.
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows live mail question
First, a correction.  I made a mistake in my last message.  You can read mail in plain text using NVDA and Windows Live Mail without using the view pane.  You can just open the message and read it, as expected.  I was thinking of System Access, which doesn't read plain text mail in the ribbon version of the program unless you read it in the view pane. 
Now, to the alt enter question.
As you said in your current message, you don't have to use alt m to read a message.  You can press enter on the message and read it.  You said you have to use alt m to type a message or reply to one.  I don't think that alt m has anything to do with the problem.  I think that anything you do that leaves the message body and then you return to it when you are either composing a new message or replying to one, allows you to see what you are typing.  Or perhaps you have to do this in order to be able to place text in a message, I don't know.  I don't use Windows 10 and I can't experiment with the problem because it doesn't occur with earlier Windows versions.  Instead of pressing alt m, pressing alt twice should accomplish the same thing because it takes you out of the message you are writing or replying to and returns you to it.  My guess is that anything that moves you out of the message editing area and returns you to it will do the same thing.

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Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows live mail question
Excuse me but I’m not the only one who had this problem. I had a sighted nephew work with windows live mail and he even said that NVDA didn’t see the message body. As far as seeing the message in the preview pane, I do have that turned off and I can hit enter to automatically read a message. I’m sure other people on the list had similar problems with NVDA and windows live mail. I’m wondering if you did a mouse click for NVDA to see the message body. I’m not trying to argue with you—just wondering why I have to hit alt M and enter to type a message or reply to one.
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows live mail question


           You were having this problem before and it is inexplicable to me.  When I open Windows Live Mail 2012 on my machine and I'm in my inbox message list all I have to do is either TAB to jump to the preview pane to see the message or hit ENTER while on the message to have it open in its own Window.

           Reading e-mail as plain text is fine if you want to do so, but it is not necessary for security reasons.  Patches to prevent execution of code via HTML e-mail were put into place in contemporary e-mail clients many years ago.  This is one of those practices that, while once valuable, is really not so any more.

           I can't figure out where you'd even use ALT+M, because that's not a command in the reading side of WLM 2012.

           There are commands under ALT+M, the Message Ribbon, when you're replying (or composing a new message), but when I reply I am immediately thrown into the edit box for the message box at the outset and can just type my message.  If I am composing a new message I am thrown into the To: field when the window opens up, after filling that in TAB takes me to Subject, and after filling that in TAB takes me to the message body.  This is the behavior I've always observed on client computers as well.  NVDA just follows right along with where the system cursor has landed each and every time.


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