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It does not matter even if you move it to 0, it still annoys you from time to time, hence my comment about the illogical nature of not allowing the message text to be read from a non installed program. After all we are not changing it or hacking the system we just need to know what is going on.
For windows 7 I know there is a registry hack, but never tried it in win 10, besides, you can find the control with a search of control panel. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Akbar S. Currim" <raahzam@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop What is UAC and how do I change the level of the settings. Thanks,
Akbar
On 9/6/17, Chris Wright via Groups.Io <blindgamer87@...> wrote:
If I remember correctly, portable and temporary copies of NVDA are unable to interact with UAC. When you hear the UAC sound, press Alt+Y. This should allow the installation to continue. Alternatively, you could set the UAC notification level to 0 which prevents the prompt from appearing and allows the software to run normally.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 11:52 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Must been the UAC. It should have read it.
On 9/5/2017 11:22 AM, Akbar S. Currim wrote:
You are brilliant. Being unable to install even from a portable copy I asked my sighted son to take a look at it. Apparently a window was opening which was completely inaccessible which was asking to confirm to allow to install the programme which I was not aware of. When he (my son) clicked to allow it and then the installation went through without a hitch.
Thanks to all and sorry for the bother.
Akbar
On 9/2/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
It could just be that something like an anti virus has updated since the old
install and also it could be that new code in the latest nvda is only now falling foul of malware filtering. Normally such programs would tell you though, unless its a message which is inaccessible of course.
It would really need a sighted person with hands on the machine to solve it
I think. Its going to be something really annoyingly simple I'm sure. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop
hello. did you try nvda without eloquence? by default, it only has espeak and i dont think that the problem relates to eloquence.
also, system requirements for nvda 17.2 and 17.3 are the same.
On 9/1/17, Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...> wrote:
The Eloquence which I have is quite recent and it is also installed on my second laptop on which I had no problem updating. The "alt-tab" method has tried by me several times and makes no difference. Besides, when the updated version of NVDA finishes downloading it automatically says that the download is complete and it will now update the existing version of NVDA. with the negative result already explained So I think I will just go ahead and make a portable version from my proper working NVDA from my second laptop and install it from there. I have not had any time as yet to do that but maybe I will get down to doing it over the weekend. Thanks, Akbar
On 9/1/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I said entity because I have no idea who owns it now. It's probably a company but since I didn't know, I said entity.
Gene
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop
Well entity? It sounds exactly like it even to the lisp! I got mine on an old cd called Home Page reader by IBM it was a freebie. Goes back a very long way!
Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop
Via Voice isn't Eloquence. it is similar in sound and performance, but it isn't the same program and isn't owned by the same entity.
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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:05 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop
I've not noticed this on any of the legal Eloquence drivers, even the old sapi 4 one called via voice. I agree that old hacked one was rubbish but anyone using that still would probably have no hair left by now. smiley. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Pinto" <austinpinto.xaviers@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop
hi. this may be caused by an old version of elequence. before you update switch to espeak then upgrade and then switch back. also do a restart of your laptop. i dont mean shutdown and restart. i mean a full restart.
On 8/31/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Hmmm did you try to alt tab a few times.
Sometimes I get a uac prompt, usually it pops up but if I for example have more than a couple windows open then it may be hidden.
The trick is to know how long something should take to download and if you heard the completed sound or think it should be well should be, then you need to alt tab.
On the other hand, the other way you can handle this is download the main exe file, close everything window wise and run that.
On 31/08/2017 6:39 p.m., Akbar S. Currim wrote:
I retried the update with the same result and installation failed. The update downloaded fine and then stated that my existing copy would be updated and asked me to click OK which I did. After that I keep getting a message saying "please wait-your existing copy of NVDA is being updated" and this goes on repeating with simultaneous beeps indefinitely untill finally it says that the update installation failed. How do I get over this problem? Should I remove the existing copy of NVDA and install a fresh copy from scratch?
Alternatively, is it possible to make a portable copy from my other laptop which has a proper working version and try to reinstall from that? In that case if it is possible, then I would be spared from reconfiguring NVDA all over again to suit my needs. Thanks, Akbar
On 8/29/17, Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...> wrote:
I got no such notification on either of the laptops. Anyway I will try your suggestion tomorrow as I am travelling now. Will get back to you after that with the result.
Thanks,
Akbar
On 8/29/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
When you go to install a program, Windows pops up a dialog advising that you are about to change the system and you need to accept that before you can install the program. Sometimes this dialog appears behind other windows. In that case, you may need to alt+tab to it if it doesn't seem to appear.
That is usually the reason for this kind of problem.
Regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...> wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install NVDA17.3 on my HP laptop and although I could download the new version without any difficulty and also after clicking to install it when I got the message to do so the configuring progress went on and on for at least 20 minutes and after that I got an error message saying that the installation failed. I tried the same thing three times with the same result. Could someone please enlighten me as to what is happening and how I could remedy the same.
Incidentally I had no problem updating NVDA on my second laptop which is an Asus. Both laptops are running Win 10 duly updated to the latest version. On the second laptop the installation took only a few minutes and there was no problem at all.
I give below the log I received for the installation failure. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and regards,
Akbar
Log for failure: INFO - __main__ (10:41:42.874): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (10:41:43.140): Config dir: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:41:43.140): Loading config: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154): NVDA version 2017.3 INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154): Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154): Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:41:43.940): Loaded synthDriver eloquence INFO - core.main (10:41:43.940): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:41:43.940): Braille input initialized INFO - braille.initialize (10:41:43.940): Using liblouis version 3.2.0 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:41:43.940): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. WARNING - core.main (10:41:43.994): Java Access Bridge not available INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:41:43.994): UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3 INFO - core.main (10:41:45.861): NVDA initialized ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.197): Failed to execute installer Traceback (most recent call last): File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall File "config\__init__.pyo", line 182, in execElevated File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user. ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.198): Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
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