Re: its time for skinnable windows


Well its happening, an article says in the local paper that we are moving away from the smart phone slowly but surely to.

I also doubt everyone will jump to the cloud just like that.

It doesn't mean we will all have to use windows 10 s.

It does mean that business users may have better access for on the go, etc, but I suspect there will be ways for us home users to continue as we are.

We allready are in the cloud sort of.

Bar my login which I refuse to put in ms account I have multiple ms apps including stores, buy music and programs online via the cloud, have gmail in the cloud, file sharing services in the cloud, and calendars maps, and all that stuff.

We are in the cloud right at this moment.

So its a question of interface and what will happen to it really.

I doubt windows will ever become a subscription I mean you will be able to buy outright.

It may be good for those that can not afford office full or windows full say if they are are on a budget to buy what they need etc.

On 11/09/2017 9:19 p.m., zahra wrote:
hi brian.

i think that microsoft means continual upgrade, or maybe cloud that i
am realy afraid of this.

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I think we have a while yet though, as many companies use extended support
as they did with XP and I know thatthis effectively increases the time of
the life of a particular version by another 2 years or so. it depends rather

a lot on how Microsoft see the future. If they say and mean Windows 10 is
the last one, do they mean its a continual upgrade, or do they mean their
next system will not even be called windows, or do they mean everyting will

be in the cloud and effectively rented to the customer which will be a
problem for anyone not on a good internet connection.
I've yet to hear a satisfactory answer to this. I do agree though that in
theis day and age we should be able to decide our interface for ALL software

so people can have a less steep learning curve. we should be making it
easier to upgrade by adding features not changing the intface every few
years and stopping people forom using old software.
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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 3:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] its time for skinnable windows


Well changed the subject.

I have always said jean that we the users should be able to do as they do

in linux decide what desktop one uses with a subset of features ofcause.

And the ability to switch entire sessions at will if we desire.

I like windows 10, but if I could use a windows 7 desktop, and a windows
98 desktop and or an xp desktop and menus then I'd be happy.

Ofcause I would have the chance to switch back and forth as I pleased.

There could be some drawbacks for things.

Things like win7 and lower desktops can not run universal apps in their
true universal mode and they would either look like desktops or simply not


Games etc could choose what mode they ran in indipendantly from what you

So an xp game would run just like on xp, etc.

I'd also like the windows 7 style update dialogs back maybe with added
updates histories, articles about them, ways to report bugs easier, and a

few other things.

It goes with out saying you would choose what you wanted.

So I could be comfortable in my own skin but choose when needed to switch

to another skin when needed.

For me for most things copy paste moving files about playing my old games

in windows 7 or xp is fine even the online stuff brousing the net maybe to

who knows.

But if I want an spaciffic ms app I could switch to the win10 interface.

I know we have classic shell, old new explorer, ribbon disabler etc but I

just wish I could run what os desktop I chose like a theme but even more

For us it could also mean we could run our readers depending on what they

were for a certain desktop which means no updates for whatever or
something like that who knows.

Its been something I have been looking for for ages.

The issue has always been that we have to always use the set of features
we are given but we may not need all of them all the time.

On 11/09/2017 1:53 p.m., Gene wrote:
Windows 7 stops being supported in 2020, which is two years and a few
months away. Whether people keep using it will involve the same kinds of

arguments and discussions that have been raised regarding XP.

----- Original Message -----

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite
version of nvda!

there's a good 5 or 6 years before 7 is too old...
And "Suck it up buttercup" is very understanding and helpful to people
asking for help...
On 9/10/2017 3:24 PM, Arlene wrote:

Perhaps this person may have a language barrier. I don’t know what her

story is. yes that person’s going to be left behind. I know sooner or
later 7 is going to go out just like xp. I’m going to learn ten before 7

becomes a sinking ship.

From: [] On Behalf Of
Lino Morales
Sent: September-10-17 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite
version of nvda!

I think 2 things. One their is a language barier or 2. This person is

2 chicken nuggits shy of a happy meal. Suck it up butter cup. Either get

off the XP train or get left behinsd. Windows 10. Its good for you.

On 9/10/2017 6:01 PM, Gene wrote:

Perhaps a paradox is an example. Two contradictory statements can't

both be true although, they can both seem to be until the problem causing

such an appearance is resolved. for example, is light a wave or a
particle? For years, that was a serious problem in quantum mechanics
until theories and models were developed that accounted for both


------ Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:20 PM


Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite

version of nvda!

I've often wondered about this.

Surely a profound truth is a correct statement.

So, if the opposite of that correct statement is a false statement,

how can it
be another profound truth?


On Sunday 10 September 2017 at 19:15:11, Brian Vogel wrote:

> The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.
> But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound


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