Hi,
I used the dec talk hard ware synthisizer in the 80s with an IBM computer.
Wow, that really brings back memories. Take care.
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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
Thanks for those samples. I've never really been
a fan of Decktalk, but I have heard quite a bit of it over the years, and you
are right. This version does sound quite different than what's shipped with
Window Eyes.
Thanks,
Ari
People who are
interested may want to hear a recording I made when I was evaluating this
version of Dectalk. it speaks differently enough and has a bit of a
different inflection pattern as well and those interested should hear the
program when deciding. You may be able to use it as a demo but this
recording may allow you to decide what you think of this version. The
original DECTalk couldn't be replicated, I think because the code was lost at
some time and this is a reconstruction. The person selling the program
isn't responsible for this. She is making available what has been
supplied.
The person selling this version is very
friendly and it was a pleasure corresponding with her.
The link to download the samples is
The sample consists of the reading of a small
part of Genesis at two different speeds. Trying the synthesizer as you
would use it may be preferable but this may give you a reasonable idea of
whether you want to pursue the matter.
Gene
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: This is the moderator speaking: [nvda] Question
Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory
Well if people don't want the legal version of
eloquence. emailing enablerehab@... and asking for
their dectalk synth may be the better option. They don't exactly sell
it anymore because there is no interest however they will sell it to you
for basically what its worth. Their licence with fonix means you need to
pay but there is no fixed price so pay what you want. I put in 20 bucks
for the thing but you could pay anything from 1-2 dollars up. For those
not liking eloquence this may be the better solution. My only complaint is
that some of the voices are a bit quiet volume wise. However
for about a couple mb you get every dectalk voice and language, sadly no
singing but even so.
On 18/04/2016 10:33 p.m., Joseph Lee
wrote: > Hi Chris, > 1. CF version is legal. > 2. Sometimes
we do see illegal Eloquence pop up, and this version is the one we don't allow
(legal versions are allowed). > Hope this helps (and please have a long
rest). > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original
Message----- > From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgilland07@...] >
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 3:25 AM > To: nvda@groups.io > Subject: Re: This is
the moderator speaking: [nvda] Question Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code
Factory > > This is the only Eloquence related post I'm going to
send to this list, but it has 100% everything to do with what Joseph has just
said. I'm neither promoting nor asking about how to get this working
with Eloquence, so know that up front. > > So, my question is,
first, Joseph, you say that Code Factory released an addon. I guess my
question is, is that addon considered to be illegal? > Second off, I'm a
little bit confused. Are you saying that Eloquence is allowed, or are
you saying it isn't allowed at this time on list. Further, if not
allowed, please then be more specific. Are you saying it's not allowed
period, or are you saying it's allowed, but only if talking about the CF
version. > > Sorry, your message was just a little bit
vague. I've had an extremely emotionally rough night, I won't go into it
more than to say, I've been crying my eyes out all night, so therefore as you
can imagine, I'm incredibly tired, so perhaps my mind is a bit oblivious right
now to the meaning of your message. If so, please forgive me. >
--- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training
Instructor. > > clgilland07@... > Phone:
(704) 256-8010. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph
Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> >
To: <nvda@groups.io> > Sent:
Monday, April 18, 2016 6:17 AM > Subject: Re: This is the moderator
speaking: [nvda] Question Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code
Factory > > > Ladies and gentlemen, > > Until a
few months ago, discussion of Eloquence wasn't allowed on this list. >
This was relaxed last summer when Code Factory released Eloquence
add-on. > Back then, Nimer and I (Nimer being the actual list owner)
said discussion of illegal version isn't still permitted. > At this
point, it would be advisable to suspend Eloquence discussions for a while. We
cannot risk giving NVDA a slightly muddy reputation at this important
occasion: NVDA's tenth anniversary and NVDACon. Please don't forget this: the
reputation of a product, particularly a product that many of you depends on,
depends on what users say about the product and the discussions surrounding
it. > For those new to this list: I'm known for being generous. However,
I'm also known for being a volcano, especially if the integrity of the list or
the reputation of a product or a community is questioned. I'll not activate
moderation flag for anyone out of respect for everyone and for newbies to get
accustomed to this environment. > For our old friends: Yes, I am indeed
serious, more serious now that we're about to help NV Access celebrate NVDA's
tenth birthday. Not only I'm speaking on behalf of moderators, but as one of
the planners of NVDACon 2016 (I am indeed the chair of the planning
committee), I'd like to kindly request that we care about reputation of NVDA,
NV Access and this community. > These days, what gives me more stress
isn't the question of who will succeed me or success of NVDACon, but the
reputation and future of this community for months and years to come. What
gives me more joy is to see you all become folks who can think about what's
going on and make informed decisions (yes, that's the reason why I've proposed
certain proposals in the past). > In conclusion, I do know I will not be
able to sleep tonight, but believe I need to say this: NVDA community,
specifically this forum, is facing a > crisis: misinformation abounds
and passion trumps reason at times. We're suffering from a disease called
"misinformation" - what is illegal being seen as legal, people not being
informed as to what's available to them when they need it, name calling at
times and so forth (as I mentioned in my blog, I will not accept name
calling). Being passionate about something is good, but it is better to think
about what's going on before defending one's arguments. In other words,
contrary to what we've said about this forum to the outside world, we're at
times known for doing the opposite. > Lastly, in regards to free
material: there is no such thing as free lunch. I do need to say this in
public: NVDA isn't technically free. For the benefit of many, NVDA is made
available as a free, open-source and community-driven screen reader. But there
are costs associated with this project. Please stop now and imagine for a
second: imagine a group of developers who have decided to promote equal access
to technology at no additional costs, using their talents to give
opportunities for someone who lives in poverty somewhere. > NVDA is more
than a screen reader now: it's a movement, and workers deserve their wages -
support, encouragement, opportunities and so on. > Thank you. >
Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- >
From: Afrim [mailto:afrim.maja@...] >
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 2:43 AM > To: nvda@groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda]
Question Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory > > Why do
people talk about it? They can, and I don't consider it against the rules of
the list since the add-on, the alternative if you like to call it is available
and accessible from within the add-on list of NVDA. > > Sent from
my iPhone > >> On Apr 17, 2016, at 9:33 PM, mk360 <mk.seventhson@...>
wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I can pay, but the
first condition is that the paid versions works as >> fine or better
that the alternative, and as reviews as been said, that >> is not the
case. >> However, I know that in the list we can't speak about
that >> alternative, so I don't understand why the people speak about
it. >> >> Regards, >>
mk. >> >>> El 17-04-2016 a las 8:04, Greg Wocher
escribió: >>> Hello, >>> I want to give those of you
who use the illegal eloquence add on some >>> food for thought.
When you do it and proudly proclaim that you do, >>> you give NVDA
and its users a bad reputation. I think I may purchase >>> the
Code Factory add on later this afternoon from AT Guys and I
will >>> let you all know if it gets rid of the
choppiness. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Greg
Wocher >>> >>>> On 4/17/2016 5:32 AM, Peter Beasley
wrote: >>>> My sentiments
exactly. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
From: Afrim >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 6:40
AM >>>> To: nvda@groups.io >>>> Subject:
Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code >>>>
Factory >>>> >>>> I have been using the old
add-on of eloquonce someone made, and I am >>>> not going to
pay for a program that does essentially the same >>>>
thing. The add-on I am talking about works so fast and
reliably. >>>> cheers. >>>> >>>>
Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Apr 17,
2016, at 6:22 AM, Kelly Sapergia <ksapergia@...> >>>>>
wrote: >>>>> >>>>>
Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Recently, there was a
discussion about alternative voices for NVDA, >>>>> such as
Code Factory's add-on with Eloquence and Vocalizer. I >>>>>
mentioned that when I tried this particular product, I noticed
that >>>>> Eloquence sounded quite choppy compared to other
screen readers and >>>>> other synths I have for NVDA on my
machine running Windows 7. >>>>> I also never experienced
this with Code Factory's SAPI 5 >>>>>
implementation. >>>>> Anyway, I got thinking about it this
evening, and decided to do >>>>> some searching to see if
anyone else was experiencing similar >>>>> issues. I found a
thread about the add-on in the old NVDA list's >>>>>
archive, and saw a message stating that the choppiness would
go >>>>> away once the product was paid for. I was just
wondering if this is >>>>> indeed the case? If yes, it's not
what I'd consider the best way to >>>>> limit a trial
version, but I might buy it after
all. >>>>> >>>>>
Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Yours
Sincerely, >>>>> Kelly John Sapergia >>>>>
Show Host and Production Director >>>>> The Global Voice
Internet Radio >>>>> http://www.theglobalvoice.info >>>>> >>>>>
Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website
(KJS >>>>> Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow
me on Twitter >>>>> at:
kjsapergia >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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