locked Re: This is the moderator speaking: Question Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory


Lenron
 

I take the changes as they come and roll with them. Has made learning
things easier.

On 4/19/16, Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@pioneerschool.org.za> wrote:
You speak of investigating, or rather in a way, studying Windows 7. Here in
South Africa, I never even thought to investigate the newer operating
systems. It was a major jump when I first started with Windows, Windows 98.
Then XP came, boy did I resist that. Then Win 7, 8, now 10. I had to teach
myself all of them, as most of us do here around me.

Then we haven't touched the changes from WordPerfect 51 to where are today,
office 2013.

I agree. Why always resist everything.

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene [mailto:nedster66@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 4:46 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] This is the moderator speaking: Question Regarding
Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory

I heard that xp was more stable! You were able to better work goldwave with
xp. I never did anything with it to notice how stable it really was. But it
was simple to use. 7 took getting used to. I listened to audio programs on
it before I got onto 7. I joined the 7 list before I left xp!

-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss [mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com]
Sent: April-18-16 6:01 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] This is the moderator speaking: Question Regarding
Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory

The old systems are much simpler.
Its harder to justify updating when my needs are met that is my problem.
Before I always had a need, now I don't.



On 19/04/2016 10:03 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Brian,

You bring up some very good points here. I was talking to a friend the
other day and he said he wishes he could go back to windows XP. I asked
him why and his answer was that it was simpler to work with. He's a great
example of someone who wants to stay in the stone age so to speak. I tried
to suggest that he upgrades to windows 10 but he doesn't want to. Like the
old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him
drink.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 11:23 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] This is the moderator speaking: Question Regarding
Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory

Pete wrote, "It's kind of like the whole e-mail thing with people wanting
to use outlook express except people keep telling them to use Thunderbird
or Microsoft outlook or window live mail or some thing like that."

This isn't a "freedom of choice" issue, it's a simple fact of life that
certain programs, Outlook Express being one example, effectively cease to
exist when official support ends. No one is guaranteed, nor should they
expect, that anything that they're using will be available in perpetuity.

I discourage people from using Outlook Express because the only existing
versions available are hacks based on who knows what code base and with
what vulnerabilities. Since e-mail clients constantly interact with the
internet this is a real concern.

While such a concern is not present regarding voice synthesis, things will
come, and go, in that arena as well. There is very likely going to come a
point where you, for any you, have to let go of something you're used to
because it is not being supported or carried forward. Getting used to
this, even though it's painful, is essential in the cyber world unless you
want to drive yourself crazy. I've seen a lot of people over the years
who have expended far more energy trying to hold on to something than
would have been expended to learn the new that's available to them.

Brian






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