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Gene
What synthesizer are you using? This appears
to be an issue of how your synthesizer works and not NVDA.
Gene
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Talking about pronounciations. NVDA has a way of reading words as months. For instance, if I read a word that starts with the letters JUN with a number preceeding or succeeding it, NVDA reads it as June. This is rather annoying and I would actually like to know how to change it. If I can give you an example NVDA reads 2 Mark as 2 March k. On 4/19/16, Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> wrote: > Hi > > > > My first experience with computers was back in 1986. A friend of mine had an > Apple with SoftVert as speech programme. I still am of the opinion that > SoftVert was way ahead of it’s time. > > > > Then I moved into a new job at the Pioneer School for the Blind in > Worcester, South Africa. > > > > Just for interest sake. I was appointed as Piano Tuning teacher. What I wil > remember for the rest of my life is that I got a desktop computer. A 186 > (the rest of the letters and numbers I cannot remember), 20 MB hard drive > and something like 4 MB of RAM. I can’t even remember the version of DOS I > used, probably something like 3.1, or something. At that time I thought that > 20 MB of hard drive space was so much that it would last me for the rest of > my life. Those were the “good old days”. Now 2 TerraByte is pushing it for > space. > > > > Yes! We must live with change. Fortunately one can change, but we my still > remember the starting days. > > > > Cheers > > > > From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@...] > Sent: Monday, 18 April 2016 9:32 PM > To: nvda@groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] > > > > Hi, > > I used the dec talk hard ware synthisizer in the 80s with an IBM computer. > Wow, that really brings back memories. Take care. > > > > > > From: Arianna Sepulveda <mailto:englishrider91@...> > > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 2:34 PM > > To: nvda@groups.io > > Subject: Re: [nvda] > > > > Thanks for those samples. I've never really been a fan of Decktalk, but I > have heard quite a bit of it over the years, and you are right. This version > does sound quite different than what's shipped with Window Eyes. > > > > > > Thanks, > > Ari > > > > People who are interested may want to hear a recording I made when I was > evaluating this version of Dectalk. it speaks differently enough and has a > bit of a different inflection pattern as well and those interested should > hear the program when deciding. You may be able to use it as a demo but > this recording may allow you to decide what you think of this version. The > original DECTalk couldn't be replicated, I think because the code was lost > at some time and this is a reconstruction. The person selling the program > isn't responsible for this. She is making available what has been supplied. > > > > > > > > The person selling this version is very friendly and it was a pleasure > corresponding with her. > > The link to download the samples is > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25812011/DECtalk%20samples.mp3?dl=1 > > The sample consists of the reading of a small part of Genesis at two > different speeds. Trying the synthesizer as you would use it may be > preferable but this may give you a reasonable idea of whether you want to > pursue the matter. > > > > Gene > > > > From: Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@...> > > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 6:04 AM > > To: nvda@groups.io > > Subject: Re: This is the moderator speaking: [nvda] Question Regarding > Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory > > > > Well if people don't want the legal version of eloquence. > emailing enablerehab@... and asking for their dectalk synth may be > the better option. > They don't exactly sell it anymore because there is no interest however > they will sell it to you for basically what its worth. > Their licence with fonix means you need to pay but there is no fixed > price so pay what you want. > I put in 20 bucks for the thing but you could pay anything from 1-2 > dollars up. > For those not liking eloquence this may be the better solution. > My only complaint is that some of the voices are a bit quiet volume wise. > However for about a couple mb you get every dectalk voice and language, > sadly no singing but even so. > > > > On 18/04/2016 10:33 p.m., Joseph Lee wrote: >> Hi Chris, >> 1. CF version is legal. >> 2. Sometimes we do see illegal Eloquence pop up, and this version is the >> one we don't allow (legal versions are allowed). >> Hope this helps (and please have a long rest). >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgilland07@...] >> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 3:25 AM >> To: nvda@groups.io >> Subject: Re: This is the moderator speaking: [nvda] Question Regarding >> Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory >> >> This is the only Eloquence related post I'm going to send to this list, >> but it has 100% everything to do with what Joseph has just said. I'm >> neither promoting nor asking about how to get this working with Eloquence, >> so know that up front. >> >> So, my question is, first, Joseph, you say that Code Factory released an >> addon. I guess my question is, is that addon considered to be illegal? >> Second off, I'm a little bit confused. Are you saying that Eloquence is >> allowed, or are you saying it isn't allowed at this time on list. >> Further, if not allowed, please then be more specific. Are you saying >> it's not allowed period, or are you saying it's allowed, but only if >> talking about the CF version. >> >> Sorry, your message was just a little bit vague. I've had an extremely >> emotionally rough night, I won't go into it more than to say, I've been >> crying my eyes out all night, so therefore as you can imagine, I'm >> incredibly tired, so perhaps my mind is a bit oblivious right now to the >> meaning of your message. If so, please forgive me. >> --- >> Christopher Gilland >> JAWS Certified, 2016. >> Training Instructor. >> >> clgilland07@... >> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> >> To: <nvda@groups.io> >> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 6:17 AM >> Subject: Re: This is the moderator speaking: [nvda] Question Regarding >> Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory >> >> >> Ladies and gentlemen, >> >> Until a few months ago, discussion of Eloquence wasn't allowed on this >> list. >> This was relaxed last summer when Code Factory released Eloquence add-on. >> Back then, Nimer and I (Nimer being the actual list owner) said discussion >> of illegal version isn't still permitted. >> At this point, it would be advisable to suspend Eloquence discussions for >> a while. We cannot risk giving NVDA a slightly muddy reputation at this >> important occasion: NVDA's tenth anniversary and NVDACon. Please don't >> forget this: the reputation of a product, particularly a product that many >> of you depends on, depends on what users say about the product and the >> discussions surrounding it. >> For those new to this list: I'm known for being generous. However, I'm >> also known for being a volcano, especially if the integrity of the list or >> the reputation of a product or a community is questioned. I'll not >> activate moderation flag for anyone out of respect for everyone and for >> newbies to get accustomed to this environment. >> For our old friends: Yes, I am indeed serious, more serious now that we're >> about to help NV Access celebrate NVDA's tenth birthday. Not only I'm >> speaking on behalf of moderators, but as one of the planners of NVDACon >> 2016 (I am indeed the chair of the planning committee), I'd like to kindly >> request that we care about reputation of NVDA, NV Access and this >> community. >> These days, what gives me more stress isn't the question of who will >> succeed me or success of NVDACon, but the reputation and future of this >> community for months and years to come. What gives me more joy is to see >> you all become folks who can think about what's going on and make informed >> decisions (yes, that's the reason why I've proposed certain proposals in >> the past). >> In conclusion, I do know I will not be able to sleep tonight, but believe >> I need to say this: NVDA community, specifically this forum, is facing a >> crisis: misinformation abounds and passion trumps reason at times. We're >> suffering from a disease called "misinformation" - what is illegal being >> seen as legal, people not being informed as to what's available to them >> when they need it, name calling at times and so forth (as I mentioned in >> my blog, I will not accept name calling). Being passionate about something >> is good, but it is better to think about what's going on before defending >> one's arguments. In other words, contrary to what we've said about this >> forum to the outside world, we're at times known for doing the opposite. >> Lastly, in regards to free material: there is no such thing as free lunch. >> I do need to say this in public: NVDA isn't technically free. For the >> benefit of many, NVDA is made available as a free, open-source and >> community-driven screen reader. But there are costs associated with this >> project. Please stop now and imagine for a second: imagine a group of >> developers who have decided to promote equal access to technology at no >> additional costs, using their talents to give opportunities for someone >> who lives in poverty somewhere. >> NVDA is more than a screen reader now: it's a movement, and workers >> deserve their wages - support, encouragement, opportunities and so on. >> Thank you. >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Afrim [mailto:afrim.maja@...] >> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 2:43 AM >> To: nvda@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code >> Factory >> >> Why do people talk about it? They can, and I don't consider it against the >> rules of the list since the add-on, the alternative if you like to call it >> is available and accessible from within the add-on list of NVDA. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 9:33 PM, mk360 <mk.seventhson@...> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I can pay, but the first condition is that the paid versions works as >>> fine or better that the alternative, and as reviews as been said, that >>> is not the case. >>> However, I know that in the list we can't speak about that >>> alternative, so I don't understand why the people speak about it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> mk. >>> >>>> El 17-04-2016 a las 8:04, Greg Wocher escribió: >>>> Hello, >>>> I want to give those of you who use the illegal eloquence add on some >>>> food for thought. When you do it and proudly proclaim that you do, >>>> you give NVDA and its users a bad reputation. I think I may purchase >>>> the Code Factory add on later this afternoon from AT Guys and I will >>>> let you all know if it gets rid of the choppiness. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Greg Wocher >>>> >>>>> On 4/17/2016 5:32 AM, Peter Beasley wrote: >>>>> My sentiments exactly. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Afrim >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 6:40 AM >>>>> To: nvda@groups.io >>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code >>>>> Factory >>>>> >>>>> I have been using the old add-on of eloquonce someone made, and I am >>>>> not going to pay for a program that does essentially the same >>>>> thing. The add-on I am talking about works so fast and reliably. >>>>> cheers. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:22 AM, Kelly Sapergia <ksapergia@...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Recently, there was a discussion about alternative voices for NVDA, >>>>>> such as Code Factory's add-on with Eloquence and Vocalizer. I >>>>>> mentioned that when I tried this particular product, I noticed that >>>>>> Eloquence sounded quite choppy compared to other screen readers and >>>>>> other synths I have for NVDA on my machine running Windows 7. >>>>>> I also never experienced this with Code Factory's SAPI 5 >>>>>> implementation. >>>>>> Anyway, I got thinking about it this evening, and decided to do >>>>>> some searching to see if anyone else was experiencing similar >>>>>> issues. I found a thread about the add-on in the old NVDA list's >>>>>> archive, and saw a message stating that the choppiness would go >>>>>> away once the product was paid for. I was just wondering if this is >>>>>> indeed the case? If yes, it's not what I'd consider the best way to >>>>>> limit a trial version, but I might buy it after all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours Sincerely, >>>>>> Kelly John Sapergia >>>>>> Show Host and Production Director >>>>>> The Global Voice Internet Radio >>>>>> http://www.theglobalvoice.info >>>>>> >>>>>> Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS >>>>>> Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter >>>>>> at: kjsapergia >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> . >> > > > > > >
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