Hello

It has nothing to do with the Synthesiser.  I have used both SAPI (the
version as default on Windows 10) and ESpeak. Both these synthesisers
give me the same problem.  Isn't there a autocomplete option or
something that I need to uncheck somewhere?

Thanks
Heaven

On 4/19/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> What synthesizer are you using?  This appears to be an issue of how your
> synthesizer works and not NVDA.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: HBotma
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 2:17 AM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda]
>
>
> Hello
>
> Talking about pronounciations.  NVDA has a way of reading words as
> months.  For instance, if I read a word that starts with the letters
> JUN with a number preceeding or succeeding it, NVDA reads it as June.
> This is rather annoying and I would actually like to know how to
> change it.
>
> If I can give you an example NVDA reads 2 Mark as 2 March k.
>
> On 4/19/16, Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> My first experience with computers was back in 1986. A friend of mine had
>> an
>> Apple with SoftVert as speech programme. I still am of the opinion that
>> SoftVert was way ahead of it’s time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then I moved into a new job at the Pioneer School for the Blind in
>> Worcester, South Africa.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just for interest sake. I was appointed as Piano Tuning teacher. What I
>> wil
>> remember for the rest of my life is that I got a desktop computer. A 186
>> (the rest of the letters and numbers I cannot remember), 20 MB hard drive
>> and something like 4 MB of RAM. I can’t even remember the version of DOS
>> I
>> used, probably something like 3.1, or something. At that time I thought
>> that
>> 20 MB of hard drive space was so much that it would last me for the rest
>> of
>> my life. Those were the “good old days”. Now 2 TerraByte is pushing it
>> for
>> space.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes! We must live with change. Fortunately one can change, but we my
>> still
>> remember the starting days.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@...]
>> Sent: Monday, 18 April 2016 9:32 PM
>> To: nvda@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda]
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I used the dec talk hard ware synthisizer in the 80s with an IBM
>> computer.
>> Wow, that really brings back memories. Take care.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Arianna Sepulveda <mailto:englishrider91@...>
>>
>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 2:34 PM
>>
>> To: nvda@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda]
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for those samples. I've never really been a fan of Decktalk, but I
>> have heard quite a bit of it over the years, and you are right. This
>> version
>> does sound quite different than what's shipped with Window Eyes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ari
>>
>>
>>
>> People who are interested may want to hear a recording I made when I was
>> evaluating this version of Dectalk.  it speaks differently enough and has
>> a
>> bit of a different inflection pattern as well and those interested should
>> hear the program when deciding.  You may be able to use it as a demo but
>> this recording may allow you to decide what you think of this version.
>> The
>> original DECTalk couldn't be replicated, I think because the code was
>> lost
>> at some time and this is a reconstruction.  The person selling the
>> program
>> isn't responsible for this.  She is making available what has been
>> supplied.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The person selling this version is very friendly and it was a pleasure
>> corresponding with her.
>>
>> The link to download the samples is
>>
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25812011/DECtalk%20samples.mp3?dl=1
>>
>> The sample consists of the reading of a small part of Genesis at two
>> different speeds.  Trying the synthesizer as you would use it may be
>> preferable but this may give you a reasonable idea of whether you want to
>> pursue the matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@...>
>>
>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 6:04 AM
>>
>> To: nvda@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: This is the moderator speaking: [nvda] Question Regarding
>> Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory
>>
>>
>>
>> Well if people don't want the legal version of eloquence.
>> emailing enablerehab@... and asking for their dectalk synth may be
>> the better option.
>> They don't exactly sell it anymore because there is no interest however
>> they will sell it to you for basically what its worth.
>> Their licence with fonix means you need to pay but there is no fixed
>> price so pay what you want.
>> I put in 20 bucks for the thing but you could pay anything from 1-2
>> dollars up.
>> For those not liking eloquence this may be the better solution.
>> My only complaint is that some of  the voices  are a bit quiet volume
>> wise.
>> However for about a couple mb you get every dectalk voice and language,
>> sadly no singing but even so.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18/04/2016 10:33 p.m., Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 1. CF version is legal.
>>> 2. Sometimes we do see illegal Eloquence pop up, and this version is the
>>> one we don't allow (legal versions are allowed).
>>> Hope this helps (and please have a long rest).
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgilland07@...]
>>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 3:25 AM
>>> To: nvda@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: This is the moderator speaking: [nvda] Question Regarding
>>> Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory
>>>
>>> This is the only Eloquence related post I'm going to send to this list,
>>> but it has 100% everything to do with what Joseph has just said.  I'm
>>> neither promoting nor asking about how to get this working with
>>> Eloquence,
>>> so know that up front.
>>>
>>> So, my question is, first, Joseph, you say that Code Factory released an
>>> addon.  I guess my question is, is that addon considered to be illegal?
>>> Second off, I'm a little bit confused.  Are you saying that Eloquence is
>>> allowed, or are you saying it isn't allowed at this time on list.
>>> Further, if not allowed, please then be more specific.  Are you saying
>>> it's not allowed period, or are you saying it's allowed, but only if
>>> talking about the CF version.
>>>
>>> Sorry, your message was just a little bit vague.  I've had an extremely
>>> emotionally rough night, I won't go into it more than to say, I've been
>>> crying my eyes out all night, so therefore as you can imagine, I'm
>>> incredibly tired, so perhaps my mind is a bit oblivious right now to the
>>> meaning of your message.  If so, please forgive me.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>
>>> clgilland07@...
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
>>> To: <nvda@groups.io>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 6:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: This is the moderator speaking: [nvda] Question Regarding
>>> Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory
>>>
>>>
>>> Ladies and gentlemen,
>>>
>>> Until a few months ago, discussion of Eloquence wasn't allowed on this
>>> list.
>>> This was relaxed last summer when Code Factory released Eloquence
>>> add-on.
>>> Back then, Nimer and I (Nimer being the actual list owner) said
>>> discussion
>>> of illegal version isn't still permitted.
>>> At this point, it would be advisable to suspend Eloquence discussions
>>> for
>>> a while. We cannot risk giving NVDA a slightly muddy reputation at this
>>> important occasion: NVDA's tenth anniversary and NVDACon. Please don't
>>> forget this: the reputation of a product, particularly a product that
>>> many
>>> of you depends on, depends on what users say about the product and the
>>> discussions surrounding it.
>>> For those new to this list: I'm known for being generous. However, I'm
>>> also known for being a volcano, especially if the integrity of the list
>>> or
>>> the reputation of a product or a community is questioned. I'll not
>>> activate moderation flag for anyone out of respect for everyone and for
>>> newbies to get accustomed to this environment.
>>> For our old friends: Yes, I am indeed serious, more serious now that
>>> we're
>>> about to help NV Access celebrate NVDA's tenth birthday. Not only I'm
>>> speaking on behalf of moderators, but as one of the planners of NVDACon
>>> 2016 (I am indeed the chair of the planning committee), I'd like to
>>> kindly
>>> request that we care about reputation of NVDA, NV Access and this
>>> community.
>>> These days, what gives me more stress isn't the question of who will
>>> succeed me or success of NVDACon, but the reputation and future of this
>>> community for months and years to come. What gives me more joy is to see
>>> you all become folks who can think about what's going on and make
>>> informed
>>> decisions (yes, that's the reason why I've proposed certain proposals in
>>> the past).
>>> In conclusion, I do know I will not be able to sleep tonight, but
>>> believe
>>> I need to say this: NVDA community, specifically this forum, is facing a
>>> crisis: misinformation abounds and passion trumps reason at times. We're
>>> suffering from a disease called "misinformation" - what is illegal being
>>> seen as legal, people not being informed as to what's available to them
>>> when they need it, name calling at times and so forth (as I mentioned in
>>> my blog, I will not accept name calling). Being passionate about
>>> something
>>> is good, but it is better to think about what's going on before
>>> defending
>>> one's arguments. In other words, contrary to what we've said about this
>>> forum to the outside world, we're at times known for doing the opposite.
>>> Lastly, in regards to free material: there is no such thing as free
>>> lunch.
>>> I do need to say this in public: NVDA isn't technically free. For the
>>> benefit of many, NVDA is made available as a free, open-source and
>>> community-driven screen reader. But there are costs associated with this
>>> project. Please stop now and imagine for a second: imagine a group of
>>> developers who have decided to promote equal access to technology at no
>>> additional costs, using their talents to give opportunities for someone
>>> who lives in poverty somewhere.
>>> NVDA is more than a screen reader now: it's a movement, and workers
>>> deserve their wages - support, encouragement, opportunities and so on.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Afrim [mailto:afrim.maja@...]
>>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 2:43 AM
>>> To: nvda@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code
>>> Factory
>>>
>>> Why do people talk about it? They can, and I don't consider it against
>>> the
>>> rules of the list since the add-on, the alternative if you like to call
>>> it
>>> is available and accessible from within the add-on list of NVDA.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 9:33 PM, mk360 <mk.seventhson@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I can pay, but the first condition is that the paid versions works as
>>>> fine or better that the alternative, and as reviews as been said, that
>>>> is not the case.
>>>> However, I know that in the list we can't speak about that
>>>> alternative, so I don't understand why the people speak about it.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> mk.
>>>>
>>>>> El 17-04-2016 a las 8:04, Greg Wocher escribió:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I want to give those of you who use the illegal eloquence add on some
>>>>> food for thought. When you do it and proudly proclaim that you do,
>>>>> you give NVDA and its users a bad reputation. I think I may purchase
>>>>> the Code Factory add on later this afternoon from AT Guys and I will
>>>>> let you all know if it gets rid of the choppiness.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/17/2016 5:32 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:
>>>>>> My sentiments exactly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Afrim
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 6:40 AM
>>>>>> To: nvda@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Eloquence for NVDA from Code
>>>>>> Factory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been using the old add-on of eloquonce someone made, and I am
>>>>>> not going to pay for a program  that does essentially the same
>>>>>> thing. The add-on I am talking about works so fast and reliably.
>>>>>> cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:22 AM, Kelly Sapergia <ksapergia@...>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recently, there was a discussion about alternative voices for NVDA,
>>>>>>> such as Code Factory's add-on with Eloquence and Vocalizer. I
>>>>>>> mentioned that when I tried this particular product, I noticed that
>>>>>>> Eloquence sounded quite choppy compared to other screen readers and
>>>>>>> other synths I have for NVDA on my machine running Windows 7.
>>>>>>> I also never experienced this with Code Factory's SAPI 5
>>>>>>> implementation.
>>>>>>> Anyway, I got thinking about it this evening, and decided to do
>>>>>>> some searching to see if anyone else was experiencing similar
>>>>>>> issues. I found a thread about the add-on in the old NVDA list's
>>>>>>> archive, and saw a message stating that the choppiness would go
>>>>>>> away once the product was paid for. I was just wondering if this is
>>>>>>> indeed the case? If yes, it's not what I'd consider the best way to
>>>>>>> limit a trial version, but I might buy it after all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yours Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Kelly John Sapergia
>>>>>>> Show Host and Production Director
>>>>>>> The Global Voice Internet Radio
>>>>>>> http://www.theglobalvoice.info
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS
>>>>>>> Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter
>>>>>>> at: kjsapergia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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