Re: Firefox Quantum. ver 57 are we ready?

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>

Hi.  It's not easy to explainthis without avoiding technecal issues. Suffice it to say that the Mozilla web engine is undergoing a change.  In the past, it is mozilla that is issuing all the information to Screenreaders.  Now with the new browser, it is up to the Screenreader to extract the information from the browser through a user interface.  Complicated but so it goes with new technology.  Cheers!

On 26/10/2017 10:52 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

I thought 57 was supposed to solve accessibility issues--not create more.  Back when 56 was released, some people were talking about an issue where the place was not kept when moving back and forth between web pages and/or tabs.  On another list, I saw that this was to be fixed in version 57.  Now what's all this stuff about a totally new design that breaks screen accessibility?

On 10/25/2017 10:12 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

There will be problems using ScreenReders with the Firefox Quantum due to be released on November 14th.  It is advised that the ESR version of Firefox should be installed and your current personal Firefox version be uninstalled to prevent it from automatically updating to the latest but broken Firefox Quantum, as far as ScreenReader usability goes.  Go here to download FireFox ESR to maintain ScreenReader usability as this version won't be updated until June of next year, by which time, it is hoped that the personal edition of Firefox and ScreenReader usability will be resolved.

Plese press T to find the table of available languages, plus Operating Systems,  and arrow down to the appropriate language and OS of your choice.  Unfortunately, the navigation of this table is not made any easier due to the lack of hadings, but patiently scroll down with your arrow key and you should find what you need.  Cheers!

On 26/10/2017 8:46 AM, Gene wrote:
The free upgrade won't be available after a time, I think it's a few months from now.  but you don't have to upgrade and remain upgraded.  You can upgrade and then go back to whatever you are using now.  Then, since you have upgraded, you can upgrade again later if you wish.  I don't know the details of how you upgrade again and from what I've read, if you upgrade and then downgrade, you have to do some things to get everything back as it was.  Just because the free upgrade is going away, that doesn't mean you have to do anything.  How old is your machine?  How likely is it that it will still be working when support ends for whatever version of Windows you are running now?  How old are your peripherals such as printer and scanner?  Are there Windows 10 drivers for them?  The free upgrade might not be so free.
Is there anything in Windows 10 you want? 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox Quantum. ver 57 are we ready?

Hi guys

I just had a email off another list to do with another screen reader to do with the new fire fox coming out next month the one stated in the subject line. Are we alright to go with it as of yet? or will we be aright with it in the next release of NVDA 2017.4 or the version after that.

I have not got that version on this system so do not know how well it works with it. From what i have been reading is more to do with multii thread machines.

And older machines will slow the right down as in searching for pages etc.

It looks also the free upgrade to windows 10 from 7,8 and 8.1 ends at the end of this year.

So if you are able to upgrade from those operating system either upgrade or after that date if you want to go to windows 10 you will have to pay.

There is also some other accessibility stuff that might be of interest to windows 10 creator update. For more info see the following link at

Once i know also about the new browser and when we are able to go i will put it back across the list in atig in new zealand.

Gene nz

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

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