It does seem that while usefull there is a hole in old access systems.
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We are just not there yet, but we are almost there.
Most of windows is uia, and why firefox is slow is its probably in transition to the new system.
I do hope that system eventually exists but well.
On 26/10/2017 8:31 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Its fine but I'm using 55 and have turned off updates. if they have messed it up in 57, they need to create a new maintained branch I would imagine so that anyone who relies on Firefox is protected against losing the ability to use it and its current add on systems.
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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum. ver 57 are we ready?
Hi again Group,
I noticed that this is Firefox 52--a full 5 versions behind the 57
version due to be released in November. Is this at all safe?
On 10/25/2017 10:12 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
There will be problems using ScreenReders with the Firefox Quantum due
to be released on November 14th. It is advised that the ESR version
of Firefox should be installed and your current personal Firefox
version be uninstalled to prevent it from automatically updating to
the latest but broken Firefox Quantum, as far as ScreenReader
usability goes. Go here to download FireFox ESR to maintain
ScreenReader usability as this version won't be updated until June of
next year, by which time, it is hoped that the personal edition of
Firefox and ScreenReader usability will be resolved.
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On 26/10/2017 8:46 AM, Gene wrote:
The free upgrade won't be available after a time, I think it's a few
months from now. but you don't have to upgrade and remain upgraded.
You can upgrade and then go back to whatever you are using now.
Then, since you have upgraded, you can upgrade again later if you
wish. I don't know the details of how you upgrade again and from
what I've read, if you upgrade and then downgrade, you have to do
some things to get everything back as it was. Just because the free
upgrade is going away, that doesn't mean you have to do anything.
How old is your machine? How likely is it that it will still be
working when support ends for whatever version of Windows you are
running now? How old are your peripherals such as printer and
scanner? Are there Windows 10 drivers for them? The free upgrade
might not be so free.
Is there anything in Windows 10 you want?
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*From:* Gene New Zealand <mailto:email@example.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:35 PM
*To:* firstname.lastname@example.org <mailto:email@example.com>
*Subject:* [nvda] Firefox Quantum. ver 57 are we ready?
I just had a email off another list to do with another screen reader
to do with the new fire fox coming out next month the one stated in
the subject line. Are we alright to go with it as of yet? or will we
be aright with it in the next release of NVDA 2017.4 or the version
I have not got that version on this system so do not know how well it
works with it. From what i have been reading is more to do with
multii thread machines.
And older machines will slow the right down as in searching for pages
It looks also the free upgrade to windows 10 from 7,8 and 8.1 ends at
the end of this year.
So if you are able to upgrade from those operating system either
upgrade or after that date if you want to go to windows 10 you will
have to pay.
There is also some other accessibility stuff that might be of
interest to windows 10 creator update. For more info see the
following link at
Once i know also about the new browser and when we are able to go i
will put it back across the list in atig in new zealand.
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