Re: Using Thunderbird filters

Antony Stone

So, I understand that to mean that you have a rule defined to match some header
which contains "isaudioourplace", and some emails which you expect to have
that header are being filtered, and other emails which you expect to have that
header are not being filtered.

Can you show us an example of the header taken from one of the emails which
does get filtered, and an example taken from one of the emails which does not
get filtered?


On Thursday 26 October 2017 at 22:16:32, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Anthony,

Some of the messages aren't getting filtered according to how they're
supposed to be matched. I don't know how much clearer I can be. The
header isaudioourplace.

On 10/26/2017 1:10 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Can you give us an example of an email which did not get filtered, along
with the rule which you expected to filter it?

We don't need to see the full email - we only need to see whichever part
the filter was supposed to act on.

Is there any pattern to which ones work and which ones don't - such as
the rules at the top of the list work, and the ones at the end don't,

Also, just to be clear, are you saying the some of your rules are never
filtering any emails they're supposed to filter, so they do nothing, or
are you saying that some emails get filtered by the rule they're supposd
to match and other emails do not get filtered by the same rule?


On Thursday 26 October 2017 at 22:02:47, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Only some of them got filtered.

On 10/26/2017 12:44 PM, John Isige wrote:
Question: Did all messages stop getting filtered, or only some of them?
Again, if some messages are filtered and some are not, I'd check the
headers of a filtered message and an unfiltered one to see if there are
any differences. I see you use the to: field. If somebody replies to a
person and has the list address in the cc: field, then obviously it
won't get filtered. These are the kinds of things to start checking
for. If you have a case like that, you might need to set up two or
three rules for the list to make sure every message gets filtered and
moved to its folder.

On 10/26/2017 12:46, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Gene,

Here are the steps I took to create the rules. I'll use the music list
I'm on as an example.

1. I went to tools with alt T and hit f for message filters.

2. I tabbed to the new button and hit the space bar on it.

3. I typed the name for my rule. It's called audioourplace. That's the
music list I'm on.

4. I unchecked the box that says "manually check for new messages" or
something like that.

5. Next, I tabbed to the box that says "match all of the following"
and then tabbed to the combo box and chose the "to" field.

6. I tabbed to the box for "contains". Then I tabbed to an edit box
and typed audioourplace@...

7. I tabbed to where you choose a folder. I chose the folder for the
music list and hit enter on it.

8. I tabbed to the ok button and hit the space bar on it.

9. When I was taken back to the screen where you'd create a new rule,
I tabbed to the run now button and hit enter on it. The filter did
work for awhile but then I got new messages from that list in my inbox
so I don't know where the problem could be.

I hope these steps explain better what I was trying to do.


*From:* [] *On Behalf Of
*Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:25 AM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

Then the question is, what is wrong with the rules that don't work?
Are you sure all the lists have what you tell the rule to look for
where you tell it to look? Are you sure the spelling is exactly
correct for every item you are using? I'm not sure what else might
account for some of the rules not working.

It might be that if you wrote out every step for a rule that doesn't
work, that someone will be able to find the error. That is tedious
but it may work. It might be much faster and more likely to find the
error to work with someone.


----- Original Message -----

*From:*Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>

*Sent:*Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:36 AM

*To:* <>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

I created rules for all the lists that I'm on.

On 10/25/2017 5:12 PM, Gene wrote:
What do you mean some other messages from other lists. If your
rule only applies to messages with one list name, then no other
messages will be affected. You need to make a separate rule for
every list.


----- Original Message -----

*From:*Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>

*Sent:*Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:09 PM

*To:* <>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

Hi, Robert,

I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists
are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the
thread. About your concern for filtering particular message
into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that
your focus is located to the message that is not open yet,
then tab several times till the focus is directed in the
recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From.
The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned
below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by
manually so that it will run automatically into your
corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,

Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that
comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the
filters but there are messages till coming into the
inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.

2. Tab to the new button.

3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the
combo box, tell it to match nvda.

4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be
easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just
pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder
called nvda that I made.

5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new
menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter
if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to
exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in
the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox,
before you make the folder, highlight your account
name with the arrows. If you want everything under
your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand
folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that
if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so
you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever.
If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually
starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to
expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those
folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then
you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.

If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask

On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,

How do you create filters in thunderbird or do
you just delete them after reading or replying
to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always
been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the
one that came in Office. Then I had to
upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So
I exported mail and everything just like
you're supposed to. Got everything
installed, imported into the new Outlook.
Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send
messages to specific folders would work. So
I literally deleted them all and recreated
them from scratch, and they still wouldn't
work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird
and I've been using it ever since.
If you can't find an Open Source solution for it, then it isn't a real problem.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.

Join to automatically receive all group messages.